Fedi is a company 

 So is Blockstream.

What of it?

The Fedi protocol is open, the Fedi software is open-source. 

 Fedi is not the protocol. Fedimint is the protocol. Fedi is just a company. Fedi software is not open source.  

 You're right on the protocol name, it slipped my mind. I stand corrected.

I was also unable to find source code for the alpha release of the app. The backend source code is available though.

That's strange.

Do you know if there are plans to release the frontend app source? 

 https://github.com/fedibtc/fedi-alpha

Fedi recently open-sourced their app 

 Sir. There is just a README. Do better.  

 Damn ur right, I just saw the github apk and assumed. My bad 😔 

 Lightning works pretty well to buy coffees too 

 If you already happen to have a channel around, and the fees are not high. 

 Can confirm. 

 yeah, what is with NVK shitting on LN this last day all about? has he just scored a sponsorship from a chaumian mint project or what? 

 He’s right about it not being an end solution for 8 Billion people. But it could be an end solution for 100 million custodial users. Ultimately we don’t have enough people who even want to use sovereign Bitcoin for me to FUD its scaling. 

One day though, ECash, CTV, and Bitcoin banks will be more of the common standard. 

 Bro, been shitting on lightning over complexity and short comings before Segwit. 

 It's like they are complaining about a gorgeous, smart, kind, sexy woman, but she doesn't root for the same sports ball team you do.  No solution is perfect, and it is light years better than the fiat counterfeiting scheme that steals your wealth as reliably as water eroding away a sandcastle on the beach. 

 People in Sweden, Brazil and China have instant payments from anywhere to anywhere at zero or near zero cost, and adoption is close to 100%.
It works, people love it, and it is fiat.
No point in arguing with facts.

Ethics is irrelevant to the point made, we're talking adoption and performance here. 

 100%. 

No one buys coffees today with  wire transfers. 

 Yes, they do in Sweden, Brazil and China. 

 Lightning ain’t bad either 

 100% 

 State of affairs 

 Isn’t being a store of value and a medium of exchange intertwined? If no one uses it for daily expenses, if it doesn’t reach large communities it won’t be storing much of that value. 

 I was going to say something but we can't let emotions control us! whoosah 🧘🏽‍♂️ 

 Consumption is a shitcoin.  So fiat shitcoins are for consumption.  The real question is, if you 'understand' bitcoin...why the fuck are you buying a latte with it ?   

 Do you want to abolish the consumption of coffee?
If not, how do you plan to pay for it once fiat is gone?
I'm pretty sure NVK understands Bitcoin better than most of us, we should listen. 

 plenty of cafes already using LN 

 Unless you buy a *very* *big* latte.

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 Lightning will be transport/interop layer between higher protocols like the ones you mentioned and others.