Oddbean

You don't know a single Jew opposed to censorship? I'll point one out: @Nina Paley The point is that this isn't the narrative. A "Jews Against Censorship" organization would be suppressed. But who knows, Nina has done weirder.

A Galilean jew who was of a much more distinct stock from the current Ashkenazim, Mizrahim, and Sephardim, etc, who exist today. You can’t use Jesus as an example because he is an exception and an exemplar. He’s also long before the jews were forced into a diaspora after revolting against Roman rule several times (and every time killing a lot of Pagans and Christians alike of different ethnicities/races). There are no jews with any power, in the corporeal realm today, who matter in this. When times get tough, they are all able to turn to their kindred for help, failing that they able to flee to Israel. Conversos do not count either, as they fall in the same camp. In the end, their jewish blood matters far more to them than any compartmentalized religion they allege to have converted to. If the ADL were destroyed, other organizations would take over or a new one would be created. There’s still plenty of them besides it; the World Jewish Congress, the American Jewish Congress, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, etc. Almost every single state and province in the West, and American/Israeli-aligned East, has a jewish organization for that area. Look it up. Not to mention jews directly in power in the US and Israel exerting enormous, overpowering influence on European/European diaspora, and (South) Korean, Japanese, and Taiwanese leaders. Benjamin Netanyahu, the current prime minister of Israel, was able to force a previous prime minister of Japan, Shinzo Abe, to eat from a shoe in order to obtain what he wanted (trade concessions) for his Japanese countrymen. Jewish power, in all of its forms, in all of its tentacles through “shabbos goy” (philosemitic non-jews) leaders, must be opposed if you want free speech. You will never be allowed free speech even here, ultimately, if they are not opposed. Technology can not, on its own, defeat political power and the cultural/societal norms and expressions that flow downwards from those politics. If Cortés relied upon only his men armed with crossbows and guns to defeat the Mesoamericans and did not have his political acumen to exploit the differences between political powers in the area (and thus ally with different city-states and tribes), he would have lost because he only had around 500 men with him. That is what relying upon the fediverse to “defeat” censorship is like.

@Alex Gleason Your argument means nothing save I’m embarrassed on your behalf that you used it. I have multiple Jewish friends who hate censorship but they’re also antisemites because they see Jews as their own worst enemy. Just like how the existence of Thomas Sowell doesn’t invalidate your instinctual understanding that urban negroes are a problem on the whole. @Nina Paley @𝐇𝐎𝐓𝐄𝐏 悪いバナー :win_err:

You sound like a woke SJW. How do you not see this is the exact same purity spiraling as libtards, just about race instead of gender? I bet you aren't ashamed to be a man. Two sides of the same coin, Isabelle.

@Alex Gleason @Julius D Haversack @Nina Paley @𝐇𝐎𝐓𝐄𝐏 悪いバナー :win_err: there's also a few who oppose what Israel does to Palestine but they don't have an app to tell people to AstroTurf comment boxes

@Julius D Haversack @Alex Gleason @𝐇𝐎𝐓𝐄𝐏 悪いバナー :win_err: if they have the balls to say it, then groups like the ADL and most of the media will call them a self-hating antisemite.

@1f737851 That’s exactly what my anti-censorship Jewish friends ran into, now they keep their mouths shut except in very specific company @Alex Gleason @𝐇𝐎𝐓𝐄𝐏 悪いバナー :win_err: