Oddbean

It's blatantly obvious to people who actually have experience with this & not obvious to westerners who have no stake, skin, or first hand experience. You're essentially just virtue signaling to people who want to virtue signal on the topic. Enjoy your circle jerk.

And here I thought bitcoiners were anti war. But if you kill tens of thousands of *certain* people then it’s all ok I guess. I can’t fathom how this could ever be a productive conversation seeing as you failed to make a single point and didn’t even bother to walk back that you have no idea what I think or how I have reached my conclusion, but double and tripled down on a *completely* imaginary person you’ve invented in your head and the astronomical baggage you have put on them. I’m sorry for your lack of thought.

Oh yeah coming and slaughtering Israelis which includes Jewish, Christian, Druze, the wrong type of Muslim for sport over 200years and then crying foul when we fight back...lol Go fuck yourself TBH, I'll reiterate a fact: ->you're an overprivileged westerner who doesn't know what or who he is campaigning for or against.

I don’t want any deaths, Israel don’t want any deaths. It is forced upon the Israelis. That is the whole story, but people like you cannot get their head around this obvious fact. Instead you perpetuate the lies and in the long run, that enforces the circle of VIOLENCE. But you can feel good about your holy self🫶🏾 😇 Please fuck off

Exactly, all my friends in the IDF are anti war. They're just not going to allow for their families to be targeted. I ain't a killer but don't push me. Bitcoiners are pro gun until a Jew uses one to defend himself. Our army is made up of our citizenry.

There are zero possibilities that Israel did not see that attack coming. They are the foremost intelligence agency in the west. Which means it was allowed to happen to justify what's happening right now. Israel is not an innocent bystander that just had to defend itself. There are plenty of Orthodox Jews opposed to the current war and Israel's conduct in the region. I'm not an expert, but I'm open to the insights of those that live there and have a different opinion than the typical "Israel does no wrong". There is not a consensus among all Jews here or there. To claim that people who disagree with the carnage are somehow either leftist, stupid or responsible for the perpetual conflict is intellectually dishonest. I love my family. I stand with my family. I support my family. But sometimes they fuck up and are the asshole in a situation. When they do, it's only proper to tell them so. That's where Israel is right now. No excusing what's happening.

Not to mention they haven't been able to keep a single peace agreement. They push into the West Bank, there's a conflict, they agree to stop new settlements. Rinse and repeat. By settlements, I mean militarily ccupying land that's not theirs and making life hell for those that actually live there with military checkpoints and harassment. Eventually pushing them out to make way for Israeli expansion. It's just bad business.