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Jestastic | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 What's the realm of payment size you're doing? 

Are these payments for commerce or for managing liquidity?
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TKay | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Say you are sending a friend 1m sats. 

Does it matter if it was for commerce or managing liquidity? It’s a cost we are paying.
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NotBiebs | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Yeah maybe, but the payment is instant
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NotBiebs | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Also, doesn’t create a change UTXO which could be small and is more private
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TKay | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m saying. Lightning offers value, that value will be priced. And we might end up with expensive lightning as well. 

That’s where my head is at.
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Jestastic | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 To me it does since when I rebalance etc I'm executing an arbitrage and moving much higher volume than normal for which the pricing matters.
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TKay | 3 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yeah, and costs a lot to do that.