Oddbean new post about login | logout Maybe this is a LND thing? How is electrum able to avoid forced closes in high fee environment?
electrum use a third party. If im not mistaken they use phoenix aka acinq to do that. ps: my radar activate when i see no info on that. There are a few note here and there. But they really use that.
I think the trampoline routing jumps to either async or electrum. I would also like to know more details, but Thomas has created an amazing wallet. It wouldn't surprise me if he built it himself
No dout about that, that make the wallet relable if he use it. For the bitcoin part is flawless success for the wallet but on lightning part its a mess. I look in it for some times now and its acincq servers and code. By the way its buggy and force close for anything. So i think its a "scam" = u put money in a channel and ur coins are gone. All u can do is contact electrum dev to complain and they reverse it :big eyes: yeah u read this part. So like i say multiple times already lightning is like eth casino show.
Really? Well, you're the first one that I've seen saying this. I've never had a forced close on electrum, but I have on a bunch of LND wallets. Where can I read more about this?
begin here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352784.0 then here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352784.0 And i you don't want to read all social, you can go here : https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/security/advisories/GHSA-9gpc-prj9-89x7 my exp was like this one : https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/8419
I don't think these examples are sufficient evidence that electrum is using Async on the back end. One is a bug specific to Android. The other had a very small LN channel so it's not surprising that it got forced closed.
Its not Async but acinq. And its not evidence they do this each time u have a problem. This bug for force-close is a classic and reveal what service is use. Electrum wallet doesn't use his own managment system and op for another. In this case is acinq channel management. A lot of other wallet use acinq for their management channel. https://m.primal.net/HVEp.jpg
How do you know they're using acinq for their channel management? Are you talking about trampoline routing?
yeah its trampoline. I will take time to verify more cuz, at my surprise a official documentation appear about lightning and SERVERS ! reply to u when i have more to say. ** someone are reading that we talk about an elephant in the room XD ** Addendum: i like to use reliable stuff and electrum are one, minus his shady side on lightning.
Interested to hear more. You are the first I've heard talking about this
i have a little more : .reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/ouytol/electrum_415_using_acinq_trampoline_node/?rdt=55403 github.com/ACINQ/lightning-kmp/issues/154 github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/8297 All i did is, to wait. So all roads lead to acinq. Lightning is another way to scam people : -you put money in little ballot and gamble all u want. -after some time withdraw your little ballot. -if something happen your money is gone (network, hacks, people, direct scam... ) all lightning ideas is not bitcoin.
