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 Really?

Well, you're the first one that I've seen saying this. I've never had a forced close on electrum, but I have on a bunch of LND wallets.

Where can I read more about this?  
 begin here : 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352784.0

 then here: 
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352784.0

And i you don't want to read all social, you can go here :
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/security/advisories/GHSA-9gpc-prj9-89x7

my exp was like this one : 
https://github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/8419 
 I don't think these examples are sufficient evidence that electrum is using Async on the back end.

One is a bug specific to Android. The other had a very small LN channel so it's not surprising that it got forced closed.

 
 Its not Async but acinq. 

And its not evidence they do this each time u have a problem. This bug for force-close is a classic and reveal what service is use. 

Electrum wallet doesn't use his own managment system and op for another. In this case is acinq channel management. 

A lot of other wallet use acinq for their management channel. 

https://m.primal.net/HVEp.jpg

 
 How do you know they're using acinq for their channel management? Are you talking about trampoline routing? 
 yeah its trampoline. I will take time to verify more cuz, at my surprise a official documentation appear about lightning and SERVERS ! 

reply to u when i have more to say. 

** someone are reading that we talk about an elephant in the room XD **

Addendum: 
 i like to use reliable stuff and electrum are one, minus his shady side on lightning. 
 Interested to hear more.

You are the first I've heard talking about this 
 i have a little more : 

.reddit.com/r/lightningnetwork/comments/ouytol/electrum_415_using_acinq_trampoline_node/?rdt=55403

github.com/ACINQ/lightning-kmp/issues/154

github.com/spesmilo/electrum/issues/8297

All i did is, to wait. So all roads lead to acinq. 

Lightning is another way to scam people :
 -you put money in little ballot and gamble all u want.
 -after some time withdraw your little ballot.
 -if something happen your money is gone (network, hacks, people, direct scam... )

all lightning ideas is not bitcoin.