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 @d72d5211   Reducing herd sizes is not in the hands of the Ag researchers. It's a decision made by individual herd owners or political via regulation. 
 @5b6411ac sure - it's a policy decision. So let's make that policy. It's u(tt|dd)erly unsustainable now, so make it sustainable first, and then start adding in more when it can be done sustainably. 
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I’d argue that herd sizes are one step removed. 

When the bank manager pushed a farm consultant at the farmer they’re obliged to listen and that advice often includes, “more cows, buy in feed, more lending from the bank”.

Banks need to take the blame here, not grinding up the farmers who are stuck in the middle. 
 @f6ddecc9 in part yes, and I'll never defend the moral superiority of banks... ugh. But every investment is dependent on the investor and their due diligence. A lot of farmers have made very foolish investments (not unlike the poor sods who build/buy houses in flood plains). Sadly, sometimes investments fail. It's bad luck for sure, and I won't celebrate their misfortune, but I won't be keen on bailing them out, either.  @5b6411ac 
 @f6ddecc9 to my mind, the other major guilty party is Regional Councils who have broadly failed to enforce existing environmental legislation. I suspect many of the overstocked holdings are non-compliant.  @5b6411ac 
 @f6ddecc9 @5b6411ac @d72d5211 Yes, this is exactly how it happened.... Banks are 100% complicit. 
 @0a66614d @f6ddecc9 @5b6411ac councils are also complicit. They've failed to enforce existing regulations for generations.