Sorry, I didn't respond right away.  This wasn't an easy, whip up a quick response, kind of answer and I went out of town for my son's birthday trip to a theme park/water park and an eye appointment and when I got back, I was doing VBS (vacation bible school) with our church.  This was the first chance to try to give a proper response.  I actually decided to do a long form post.  I'll tag you on the post.