Oddbean

Bet, I asked gramps how he met grandma and he basically followed her around places she went to and interacted with her often, if i tired doing that to woman today I would be called a "stalker", catch a nightstick to the teeth and get a restraining order.

I got most of my understanding from Dalrock The Duluth model of domestic violence could be understand as the an outgrowth of old chivalric principles taken to their logical conclusions. Women can do no wrong, and worship and protection of women regardless of their actions. Chivalrous conservatives and screeching feminists are two claws of the same hand

ahhh dalrock. I think that's a solid start, but I think it's deeper than that. I think we built a society which did a pretty good job of taming women's bad impulses. But part of the way it did that ended up blinding men to nature.

Some seeds take a long time to grow or need special soil conditions. Courtly love was always bad, but the enlightenment let it grow into something terrible. I don't know what to do about the blinding men to women's nature part. I mean it's being fixed now, but in a consequences way instead of a prevention way

Trads want men to remain chained to the 'social contract' while they outright ignore or only make the most tepid statements on women's current state in the world. Once you remove all the social, legal, and moral constraints on women's sexual behavior, anything 'trad' is DOA. If you try and do that shit today you'll at best end up a sucker getting the privilege of raising chad's kids for some strung out 30s whore.

Being trad is fine as long as you're willing to walk the talk. In the old "traditional" days if a woman was acting unfaithful you'd beat her to in the town square with a stick no thicker than the width of your thumb and that was fine but none of these conservative types actually mean traditional in the actual sense. If a Jew raped and murdered a little girl, he'd get dragged out of his jail cell by his side locks and hanged but that would be too antisemitic for the tradcons. Too much like what a Nazi would do. Some Muslim rug salesman in Afghanistan who refuses to let his daughters learn to read American books about gay sex is actually trad but he'd be considered low status or unpatriotic by the average conservative. The Amish who refuse use computers, the Internet or (sometimes) even telephones, much the same as his father and his father's father before him, are trad but that would be a bridge too far. Too inconvenient. All these "trad" types will allow niggers in their neighbourhood to harass the children and rape the women but then act all surprised when their relationship with wives and children don't end up like a happy fairytale.

@Living Space Studios @a0026d72 @SSJ Plumber Curvin @EdBoatConnoisseur @Idea Enjoyer If you won't even beat the shit out of drag queen pedofaggots jerking off around children you don't get to call yourself trad.

i know how my grandpa met my grandma, grandpa was driving an oldsmobile when he was 18yo, his dad owned a sawmill. He saw grandma walking down the street, he began gollowing her until he found where she lived and where she worked, one day it was puring and he offered driving her home.