Oddbean

guess which way do hundreds of millions Chinese youngests search? not Baidu apparently, nor Weibo (twitter alternative) Answer is Xiaohongshu, where real active young plebs sharing their daily loves or struggles! where there's a real active user base, it's the de facto search engine. Let's hope nostr would be the decentralized optimization.

No, no one around me uses "Little Red Book"（小红书） It’s just “brainwashing” junk social video software. Chinese people only use WeChat, which has video accounts and search functions. All materials are available, and many live teaching courses are on WeChat. https://image.nostr.build/b22aa8fe9c96aac61f80bfd1b3f1a10012d9c25012b3267ba509b0f1c00eec66.jpg

In China, Internet platforms must undergo CCP review and filing. Otherwise, it will not be listed in the mobile phone store. All social software platforms must be staffed by NSA computer technicians. Many Chinese engineers who write code are NSA agents. The same goes for Xiaohongshu. All social software must "politically moderate content". Xiaohongshu and TikTok are even more rubbish and shameless.

you don't know Chinese internet users at all darling, but it's ok. point is ppl search content about everything in where their favorite circles are and mostly in their damn phone. in a nutshell, nostr mass adoption= mobility + content discovery

WeChat has 1.2 billion users. Massive user data makes it easy to test products. The WeChat company relies on the WeChat payment method to survive, charging merchants a 0.2% handling fee. Ordinary users will be charged a 1% handling fee if they withdraw change from WeChat. The personal code does not charge any fees, but it only supports change payment and red envelope issuance. It does not support credit card binding payment methods, but the merchant code does support credit card payment methods and charges a 0.2% service fee. WeChat companies survive by collecting fees from WeChat Pay. Handling fees are charged 24 hours a day. A very profitable mobile payment platform.

Mobile payment and social media payment methods are the best models and future trends. If #Bitcoin can be used globally to better promote mobile payment methods on social platforms, then #Nostr's mission is to realize this great goal.

小红书(Xiaohongshu) is just a closed social media platform, no different from Twitter today. It cannot even be searched using traditional search engines such as Baidu (China's Google equivalent) to retrieve its content. It also lacks the strong interoperability and protocol-level openness of platforms like Fediverse and Nostr (just as Twitter and Reddit are becoming less open today). Since its inception, Xiaohongshu has never intended to easily share its internal user data with others. This user data is its most valuable asset, known as "私域流量(private domain traffic)". Its success in China is undeniable. Even if Chinese young people do not use Xiaohongshu, they know what it is because it is as popular in China as TikTok, Reddit and Twitter. Of course, the Little Red Book is criticised by just as many people for being "brainwashing", in the same way that most people treat TikTok, depending on how you use it. By the way, Chinese young people don't like 微信(WeChat). Most young people only use it because they "have to", as because it's everywhere in real life, whether it's for socialising or mobile payments. Just because they don't have a choice doesn't mean they like it.

and plus, Xiaohongshu has a similar growth path as nostr initially as a beauty enthusiasm circle, gradually every young girl and many boys log in to search everything in daily lives and most probably they'll get the right answers. which echoes jack's point that it's ok for nostr to be Bitcoin echo chamber and all we need is focus on the UX and make it accessible to massive mobile users who know nothing about technical aspects. https://i.nostrimg.com/6887624b385b42ceaca3194242fca1cf8dace16f05509d17a323475a09d09e10/file.jpeg

I just discuss Chinese social software objectively, fairly, and openly. I don't have a preference for any product, I just tell the truth. A few Chinese people know Xiaohongshu,（小红书）but at least 1 billion people know WeChat. This is a fact.

What made you have the hallucination that "Xiaohongshu users are all illiterate"? Have you personally used it? Why do you compare WeChat and Xiaohongshu? They are completely different products, targeting different user groups. If you think WeChat has only developed to its current state through mobile payments alone, then you are completely mistaken. I suggest that you abandon your belief in WeChat and instead listen to the thoughts of young people in China. Young individuals tend to dislike clichés and platitudes.

I can tell you if you are doing the promotion work of "Little Red Book". Every software in China has "backdoors". The National Security Bureau of CCP must censor the content of speech. The same is true for Xiaohongshu. This kind of product has no room to survive in China.

You're actually the one shifting the topic. It seems like you enjoy arrogantly expressing political views and ideologies. If that's how you treat others, then I'm sorry. Goodbye! 👋 PS: Stop fxxking replying to me, I feel disgusted.

I said WeChat relies on WeChat Pay to make money. I didn’t say WeChat is just a mobile payment method. WeChat is a mobile tool used by Chinese government agencies to monitor Chinese people. WeChat can bind social security cards and medical insurance cards. Little Red Book doesn’t work. Xiaohongshu does not have any advantageous products. What do you think is the difference between Xiaohongshu and TikTok?

Through WeChat, you can also apply for driver's license annual inspection and driver's license renewal services. Pay fines, etc. Apply for passport documents. https://image.nostr.build/8cfff74f05c42c3f91a2f193642712792209101f320bd579a8f0c75538135e78.jpg

I heard that Xiaohongshu (小红书）is used by rural people. No one in the city uses Little Red Book.（小红书） Rural people don’t have much entertainment. that group of users will be worthless.😝

China took the lead in promoting the “QR code” payment method. The mobile payment method has been in use since 2015 and could be promoted at the earliest because small merchants that accept cash receive too much fake money. Merchants only want to use "QR codes" to collect payments to avoid receiving fake money.

The cash register system of American Wal-Mart supermarkets in China must be connected to WeChat Pay and Alipay payment methods, and Wal-Mart Supermarkets must pay a 0.2% channel fee to WeChat and Alipay. WeChat and Alipay payment charges are as follows: a handling fee will be charged for a single payment of more than 2 yuan, and no handling fee will be charged for a single payment of less than 1.9 yuan.

In fact, after actual use, I think the search function of Xiaohongshu is quite excellent. If an individual has enough knowledge and the ability to filter out junk information, then Xiaohongshu can be used as an excellent person-to-person search engine. (Of course, most people around me don’t have that kind of screening ability)