Oddbean new post about login | logout YOU DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE FACEBOOK, TIKTOK, LINKEDIN, OR X BECAUSE IT MAY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU GOING FORWARD? THAT IS THE PROBLEM. NOSTR WILL FIX THAT IF WE MAKE IT THE STANDARD. THE DOMINANT PLATFORMS ARE EFFECTIVELY SOCIAL CREDIT SYSTEMS. SURVEILLED, MANIPULATED, AND CONTROLLED BY A SMALL FEW. YOUR LIFE IS IN THEIR HANDS. NOT YOURS. USE NOSTR. TAKE BACK CONTROL. LIVE FREE.
I made the switch to nostr about 3wks ago. Got welcomed with open arms. Never sold any of my soap on X, but now selling it on nostr. @shopstr has been of great help! Only accept sats for my soap, and it is starting to gain steam. Love all you guys! LFG!!
Yes Nostr is the place to be to shine 🙏
Nice I always wanted to know the process of making soap.
Make use of Metcalfe's law in the inverse way and remove an exponential number of connections from these data mining shit networks by just opting out. https://image.nostr.build/bd3bc0cef1d0da1a27be9777069e41a486dd914162557391f90344988e1b6b66.jpg
Dude, I’ve never been on Facebook or TikTok, I have 2 followers on X (although to be fair, one of them, my first, is an absolute unit), and LinkedIn is every inauthentic thing that drove Edward Norton to seek redemption in a big stack of nitroglycerin in Fight Club. I did hang on Reddit for a few years a while back but I don’t think you could pay me to go back now. NOSTR only.
I do 🫡… is that why I’m alone in a hotel room ? 😂
How do I protect against the apps having my private key?
Use a nostr remote signer (NIP-46), such as Amber on Android. It will hold your key and apps have to ask it each time they want a signature from your key for an action.
How about for iOS and web?
Check out https://nsec.app for both.
If you believe your opportunities are tied solely to platforms like Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, or X, it might be time to reassess. True opportunities come from your skills, network, and the value you create—not from a social media presence alone. 🌟💡
I still use FB for the strong marketplace, maybe I should try a few sales on Nostr 🤔 Unfortunately I don't think there will be many takers for precious metals amongst bitcoiners 🙏🫡
PRECIOUS METALS. https://m.primal.net/LMJa.jpg
Sexy as hell, young man. Truth! Punny too.
PRECIOUS METALS. https://m.primal.net/LMJa.jpg
This hits home. Haven’t left IG o Twitter because as a musician I’m afraid of not reaching the people who like and listen to my music. I need to seriously consider this ⚡️⚡️
tell them you're leaving, let them know how and where to find you. prep them for a while, start producing content on Nostr and let them know how to find it. Then do the switch!
You will find a truer following here buddy. Monetize your following. And to prove I’m following you right now because of it.
How much revenue do you get from Platforms you use? If it’s significant gig money, fair enough, if it’s to maintain a few crumbs from Spotify I’d reconsider. I’m a sound engineer and music maker, I recently took all my music off streaming platforms and my only SM is here and the Fediverse. The Fediverse still brings me more income than here, predominantly from Bandcamp sales. It’s worth doing the maths for streaming. For most musicians it’s not worth it imho.
WE WILL CONTINUE STARVING THE BEAST. 🫡
I think at this point one reason I haven't deleted my fb account is because I have a decent network that I hope to successfully pursuade to join me here overtime and because I have lots of family and irl contacts there that allows me to stay connected to and in the know of what's happening in their lives. Also, my business page was hacked a few months ago and taken over. Eventually access was revoked from hackers but not returned to me. So I am just gathering emotional strength and focus to start a small claims court and sue meta. As I don't really want my page of 16+ years sitting there on the internet with several months of explicit vulgar daily content under my name representing me for the unforeseeable future. As far as X. I've turned off notifications. But I have linked it to nos.social so anything going up there comes from my Nostr account. Other than that I don't have energy to spend time there. I built my audience there over 16 years ago and majority of those contacts back then moved onto other platforms as I did a while back too (so my following count has become obsolete). So I don't have much exposure there but even a little is still something... In directing people over to Nostr. 🤷🏻♀️ I used to teach and have online training products for entrepreneurs and marketers for all the social media platforms and how to effectively use for online entrepreneurs including Twitter, fb, IG. But at some point I got super burned out and super turned off by it all... And soon the universe just hit a giant reset button by burning all those assets I'd built, which I took as a sign it's time for a new chapter or more so book. And the opportunities which I may have had and held there slowly faded away... I tried to keep some kind of engagement as I was going through a massive internal rearrangement and life shifts of value systems and paths... But ultimately unless you are diligently slave laboring for the algorithm Gods and selling your soul eventually any momentum I might have had ultimately died. Which is why I am hungry and yet excited and committed in investing my life force energy and full devotion to supporting the stability and growth of a protocol that aligns with my highest core values of freedom on every level. There is seriously not a bone or a tissue in my body that does not say "Noooooooo"to that old outdated paradigm and world. The opportunities that might have been there for me are non existent as the dissonance to it in my being is too loud. In reality I left those places long before I found Nostr. 🤷🏻♀️🌹🕊️🫂🤍🧿
The same goes for bitcoin. People must actually use it to make transactions if they want to see it succeed.
This is the way. #NostrOnly. Build the standard and the future that you want and that you deserve. nostr:nevent1qqs0ukfqp6jaan5cm354jrc207gq7swhjjg3e876hscszxryf69d9lcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuamfdejj7q3qqny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysxpqqqqqqzfk7jah
cannot agree more
Nostr is a baby and it is not prepared yet. It needs better key management and better infraestructure. For now, it is better to stay as a passionate niche for bitcoiners. And little by little we atract more niches as nostr grows in resilience and usability.
Starting out from fresh as a musician on Nostr is scary and exciting. Something just feels inherently right about making the shift though. Being amongst others with aligned values plays a huge part in this and massively contributes to what drew me to Nostr in the first place. Inspired to get back to creating and dropping music so time to fire this beast up again 🎛️🔥 #nostrplebs https://m.primal.net/LMKj.jpg
PEOPLE ARE HELD HOSTAGE IN THOSE PLATFORMS BECAUSE THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY MEMBERS ARE THERE, AND THEY WOULD ALSO BE LEAVING EVERYTHING THEY BUILT THERE BEHIND. IF IT WERE EASIER TO: - MIGRATE YOUR STUFF FROM YOUR OLD SILOED ACCOUNTS TO NOSTR, AND - FOR PEOPLE TO BRING THEIR FRIENDS, AND WOT, IT WOULD BE LESS SACRIFICE AND PEOPLE COULD FOLLOW THEIR SUPERSAYAN LOVED ONES TO THIS BOUNTYFUL PURPLE LAND. 💜✨ https://media.tenor.com/psIoPScelG4AAAAC/dragon-ball-z-good-bye.gif
People aren’t leaving those platforms for a multitude of reasons. Unfortunately, some of them don’t see Nostr as the land of opportunities. Nostr is literally a blank slate where one can create almost anything with pretty much no restrictions. Carve your own lane. Make your own space. It’s Mind blowing. It’s one of the reasons why I’m here. It’s a gold mine and diamond mine in one. But some people don’t have the vision to see it that way. They can’t envision the future with Nostr. I can. I usually don’t bet unless I think I can win. The odds are in my favor. I’m all in.
Its hard to find users and contributors on nostr for self custodial projects.
So when are you gonna start paying all the big influencers on the dominant platforms to move to nostr because that’s all the normies care about and that’s the standard…
I AM JUST GOING TO KEEP ZAPPING THE RIDE OR DIES AND HOLDING MYSELF TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN INFLUENCERS.
I’m riding and dying with ya boss
Shouldn’t be his responsibility. I’m a normie. Don’t understand 90% of my feed/Nostr posts on the daily. But. I recognize what freedom is. And it is the closest thing online to it. If that’s not a big enough driver to eventually sway the influencers then we don’t need them. (I also didn’t have social media before this, blue collar construction worker here).
My point is that nostr itself isn’t going to bring them here as nostr isn’t going to pay their bills like every other platform which imho mean the majority of normies won’t use nostr as they mostly want to watch the influencers
If you're still on Xitter go drop #nostr some love in this [informal] Poll 😃 The OP doesn't even mention #nostr so maybe we can open his [and some of his 170k followers] eyes https://x.com/mikealfred/status/1842382247833514483
ALFRED CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF. HE WILL GROVEL OVER TO NOSTR EVENTUALLY.
Your attention and THEIR network is how they control you. Free yourself. #NostrOnly nostr:nevent1qqs0ukfqp6jaan5cm354jrc207gq7swhjjg3e876hscszxryf69d9lcpz4mhxue69uhhwmmwwvhxxctvwesjuer9wchsygqyey2a4mlw8qchlfe5g39vacus4qnflevppv3yre0xm56rm7lveypsgqqqqqqskxkn00
You think staying on Facebook, TikTok, LinkedIn, or X is the key to opportunity? That's the illusion these centralized platforms want you to believe. They're not just controlling your opportunities; they're controlling you. Surveillance, censorship, manipulation—these platforms are the backbone of a modern social credit system, where your value is dictated by a handful of corporations. Bitcoin fixes this by decentralizing money. Nostr fixes this by decentralizing communication. Both free you from control by centralized entities. When you embrace Nostr, you're taking control of your digital identity, your data, and your future. Live on your terms, not theirs.
Is there an easy way to import someone else’s follow list? I feel like it’s harder to discover new people on here.
I'd say, use those accounts or platforms to drive traffic here. Let me explain. You open a store but no one knows about it other than the people within the neighbourhood. If you want to reach out beyond your town and neighbourhood, you need to have online exposure. You need somehow to use your existing accounts(tikrok, x, fb, etc) to focus about #nostr and drive them to come here. Yes, #nostr has a lot of opportunities. However, all is good for the early adopters . But for non-tech savvy, non-bitcoiners and slave to the centralised social media, it would not mean anything to them unless it affects their livelihood or affects the stuff that they truly cares — access to those platforms, family and income. So how do we invite them? Use the same platforms to raise awareness. Btw, this strategy was used by Tiktok that made Tiktok the way it is now (one of). People love incentives, other than censorship-resistant, what else can we offer? How do we convince people with over decades of work built on those social platform to move here? This is worth a ponder that our community must take seriously if we want to expand. Lastly, let's not forget to focus on the fundamental non-functional requirements for #nostr — relays' security (not long ago we were bombarded by spams and from a decent source, we have not had pentesting done for nostr). Food for thought. 🫂❤️
The LinkedIn account for the little company I work for was recently hacked and taken over. I was tempted to tell my boss that the problem wasn't that the account was stolen, but that it existed in the first place. Unfortunately, he wouldn't be receptive to that message in the best of times, and that was far from the best of times.
Stockholm Syndrome is real
It’s true. And I fucking hate linkedin. But when looking for jobs, it kind works.
Over a week since I deleted my profile and feeling pretty good. Connected with a few new people here, some old school email connections and the next steps of my proof of work journey progressing nicely without the bird app in sight. Ride or die. 🫡
The blues checks will say, they see not the purple light, and they will think their coins are safety being watched over by their lord and master, Larry Fink. Then they will learn a tough lesson that their blue checks merely meant they were already prisoners.
NOSTR ONLY. THERE IS NO SECOND BEST.
Are your family and pre-bitcoin friends on nostr?
I hope they aren't on FB or X either.
people use the tools that work for their need 🤙🏽
People don't know any better...
As you leave, try to bring your networks with you. the people need saving.
I’m a full time dad and husband and member of my local community. The spare time I have to be social online is now spent on Nostr because it’s the type of online future I want for myself and my kids. Even if I wanted to, I wouldn’t even have time to waste trying to run accounts on other platforms. Life is too precious. It would be time wasted.
Hey man very well Said... myself married and father of 3, homeschooling and running my own business (only working 4 days a WK) start work at 7am and home by 2 ... I agree with Nostr and comend you my friend 😌
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Feel similar.
🫂🤙
Ive found my people.
🫂🙌
That is an accurate description of what MSSM is now. nostr:note1levjqr49mm8f3hrfty8s5luspaqa09y3rj0a40p3qyvxgn526tls6mrhht
The reason people adopt a new technology is because they perceive some usefulness that they couldn't get elsewhere, and they find it easy to use. Right now, to most people, Nostr is simply Twitter with less users. Adoption will accelerate once more apps are built and utility explodes. Ease of use is also important.
got it- I found you on Mr. Obnoxious' podcast - I grew up in Hollywood and you reminded me of a 90's mix between Dave Navarro and Christian Slater.. INGL-Suave mf foo shoo !! I appreciate you !!
I quit Facebook and instagram 5 years ago and I am not missing anything! But LinkedIn is harder to quit. As much as it’s terrible, full of spam, etc, it’s a great place to reach out to former workplace proximity acquaintances. Is there a Nostr LinkedIn? Asking for a friend.
I would like to see a platform like this, build on Nostr. Can anyone do this; Create #jobstr !!!!!
I think there were some people looking into this. It was a question I asked at #nostrica and someone (won’t drop names) said Nostr absolutely with seriousness— to build it.
You miss contacting people you don’t care about or know well enough to have their phone number so you can BS to them about things they faked on their resumes? 😜 I’m joking with you but I really think LinkedIn is the least difficult to quit.
Are those sites still a thing?
Wen LinkedInstr ser?
Such a dorky space. At least on Instagram, people are pretending to be beautiful whores. Linkdn you pretend to be a certified safety professional
Why do you need to reach out to former workplace proximity associates?!
In case I need a job one day. I found my last job through a connection I used to work with 11 years prior! But that’s a bad example because I didn’t reach out to her on LinkedIn because I had her contact info.
Those connections you speak of should be stronger than social media. IMO you would have their contact info and not need the application to assist you in that regard. I was in the same situation during Covid and got my job from my previous boss also 11-12 years prior. Just my two sats anyways!
No, you’re totally right! I should stop using it! LinkedIn is terrible in many ways. Thanks for the insight!!
You got it buddy good luck!!
Nostr is the Linkedinstr
Just one more thing: I despise those platforms !! I joined X just a few months ago just for ai stuff and I'm on unpaid X - Invisible X, if you will. .. I was thinking the last couple days- I'm going to pay for X when I have money just to saturate tf out of it with nostr nostr nostr ad infinitum
They dont get it. They will never understand that they need to starve the beast. Some dont walk the talk
My man, I’ve done this … all in, only NOSTR … both with a ‘nym and a real account. This has not been the way. I have no followers on my real account and the engagement I have with this account is very low. All caps doesn’t make something true. We’ve got to make this platform more useful for the “common user.” The influencer class barely uses this place and it seems their NOSTR content is inferior to what they post on twitter. The content for the common user is far inferior to the content on Twitter. If you don’t have followers then the value prop of this platform is difficult to manifest.
Moreover these centralized platforms have been extremely unfair to most Africans creators. They can’t content in a way… THANK GOD FOR NOSTR 💪
All caps sucks to read and makes you look childish... just sayin.
Then don't read it.
Bang on you beauty collar wearing mullet(?) freedom loving mutant warrior. Left FaceBunk easily 15 years ago. Never had ShitTik Left BlueBird before it was X. Pulled the plug on LinkedIn where I had by far my biggest network. Their hooks are closed walled gardens of control and toe the line non-sense. New doors, new trails, new freedom. A closed mind opens few doors— an open mind builds new opportunity!
Live free
#Nostr is amazing. What is quite annoying about social media is that society changes the goal posts all the time. In the sense that what was said 20 years ago has become wrong and you get called out about it. Will future generations judge us by their standards and from a different perspective. I am sure about this.
The future is now, old man nostr:note1levjqr49mm8f3hrfty8s5luspaqa09y3rj0a40p3qyvxgn526tls6mrhht
No, I want to be there coz I can reach people not on Nostr 🫡 Nostr is so fecking niche. I love it. But TikTok and Facebook speak to billions daily.
Facebook is fake and ghey. Full of NPC, who the hell wants to be on there??
I left Facebook years ago and I regret it. I lost contact with a lot of people that I now want to be able to reach. NOSTR has it's place and it's not going anywhere. It doesn't need to overtake other platforms, just be what it is and continue to improve and it will happen. Small moves. Just like bitcoin. No one ever expected the world's economy to switch to bitcoin as a primary means of exchange over fiat dollars. Looking back it will feel fast but were in the middle and it takes baby steps sometimes.
PERFECT! WE ARE LIVING IN AN ERA WHERE DIGITAL FREEDOM IS LIMITED BY LARGE CENTRALIZED PLATFORMS THAT CONTROL OUR DATA AND, CONSEQUENTLY, OUR LIVES ONLINE. NOSTR EMERGES AS A POWERFUL ALTERNATIVE, RETURNING CONTROL TO THE USERS AND PROMOTING A TRULY DECENTRALIZED INTERNET. IT IS THE PATH TO REGAIN AUTONOMY AND PROTECT OUR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. LONG LIVE A FUTURE FREE FROM CENSORSHIP! 🫡
Tell Them!!!
When* Wrote this long ago —— Other Social media sites are pyramid schemes but instead of purchasing product: Users: • collect dopamine hits via likes & shares • form friendships without every meeting • willingly feed our data to be used For those in the back: we are the product being sold ———
You nailed it! Why let a few control our lives when we can take charge with Nostr? Let’s zap the old system out of existence! ⚡ I’ll keep fighting to make true freedom the standard. Together, we win!
Zap away!
You ain’t disappearing for a looong time bruh💀 https://m.primal.net/LNNV.jpg
THE REAL AMERICAN ADDICTION CRISIS.
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As the father of two Gen Z kids I can confidently say they couldn't give two shits about FB or the Gram. They have zero interest in X. They kinda like YT. They much prefer Snap and TikTok. The only FB they use is work related (meta has a platform for that) and as marketplace when they sell stuff.
Looks like I’m gonna have to come up with something new. 💁🏻♀️🤣📠
I have a LinkedIn I never filled out. I do have a reddit but I very rarely use it, most of the time I do, I use browser and don't log in. I'm currently working towards unwinding myself from Google. Then I'm done.
Create and find opportunities that don't require these platforms. Build for people who explicitly reject the corporate surveillance status quo. They exist and they are not going to take it anymore. We can confirm - we talk to them every day. Opt out. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqpxfzhdwlm3cx9l6wdzyft8w8y9gy607tqgtyfq7tekaxs7lhmxfqqs0ukfqp6jaan5cm354jrc207gq7swhjjg3e876hscszxryf69d9lccyvwz8
YouTube too as a result, since it's Google owned, and we know what they're like. Business purposes is one thing, but personal things is another. Simple as that.
you just haven't noticed yet how those platforms are manipulating you
Nah, I'm definitely aware of how they manipulate, that's a big part of why I want to leave. Unfortunately, most of my friends/family don't care. I tell them, they don't care, usually because of ye olde "nothing to hide" argument. It's frustrating, because their apathy toward privacy and dystopian algorithms is directly impacting me, whether they think so or not. It's why I try to use other platforms like the ones I mentioned to get them on board with alternative options. I'd only recommend Nostr to them if they're tech-savvy and show interest; otherwise, they'll go right back to the big tech slop they're comfortable with.
well, the privacy angle doesn't work with normies, but maybe "they are manipulating what you think by filtering your timeline" would reach them a bit better but really, at some point you gotta say, if they want to live in an imaginary dystopia and not be in the real world you have to cut back on how much attention they get from you, because they aren't going to have a genuine conversation with you when their head is filled with bullshit
Yeah, I've tried that angle as well, but unfortunately, they either don't care or they're not interested in really doing anything about it. Unfortunate, but that's just the way people are these days, sadly. I did just deactivate my Facebook about an hour ago. I figure that Messenger is still available if they need to get in touch but otherwise, it will keep me offline, save me some time, and hopefully send a message that I'm not really interested in keeping Facebook in the long run. Doubt it will do much of anything, but I guess we'll see.
i think the whole model of influencoor/fan and thousands and millions of followers is not a natural phenomenon but one which is actively cultivated in order to create idols for people to worship and ultimately, mistaking a fetish for the real thing is classic primitive child-like thinking and if people are stuck in that mindset they are not going to listen to you when you tell them that the sun is going to come up tomorrow regardless of whether the shaman murders another virgin on the top of the pyramid
I agree entirely. I've been saying that since way back when; I was a late arrival to social media, only joining Facebook in 2011 after friends at school insisted I should get it since the private school I was attending was going to shut down after that year, and at the time, better options didn't really exist. I used to hang out on forums before that (and I still prefer forums to just about everything else), and even after I did get Facebook, I only friended people I knew in person. The whole "hundreds of friends" thing, which inexorably led to the influencer/follower thing, was always something I hated.
Nah, I'm definitely aware of how they manipulate, that's a big part of why I want to leave. Unfortunately, most of my friends/family don't care. I tell them, they don't care, usually because of ye olde "nothing to hide" argument. It's frustrating, because their apathy toward privacy and dystopian algorithms is directly impacting me, whether they think so or not. It's why I try to use other platforms like the ones I mentioned to get them on board with alternative options. I'd only recommend Nostr to them if they're tech-savvy and show interest; otherwise, they'll go right back to the big tech slop they're comfortable with.
well, the privacy angle doesn't work with normies, but maybe "they are manipulating what you think by filtering your timeline" would reach them a bit better but really, at some point you gotta say, if they want to live in an imaginary dystopia and not be in the real world you have to cut back on how much attention they get from you, because they aren't going to have a genuine conversation with you when their head is filled with bullshit
Yeah, I've tried that angle as well, but unfortunately, they either don't care or they're not interested in really doing anything about it. Unfortunate, but that's just the way people are these days, sadly. I did just deactivate my Facebook about an hour ago. I figure that Messenger is still available if they need to get in touch but otherwise, it will keep me offline, save me some time, and hopefully send a message that I'm not really interested in keeping Facebook in the long run. Doubt it will do much of anything, but I guess we'll see.
i think the whole model of influencoor/fan and thousands and millions of followers is not a natural phenomenon but one which is actively cultivated in order to create idols for people to worship and ultimately, mistaking a fetish for the real thing is classic primitive child-like thinking and if people are stuck in that mindset they are not going to listen to you when you tell them that the sun is going to come up tomorrow regardless of whether the shaman murders another virgin on the top of the pyramid
I agree entirely. I've been saying that since way back when; I was a late arrival to social media, only joining Facebook in 2011 after friends at school insisted I should get it since the private school I was attending was going to shut down after that year, and at the time, better options didn't really exist. I used to hang out on forums before that (and I still prefer forums to just about everything else), and even after I did get Facebook, I only friended people I knew in person. The whole "hundreds of friends" thing, which inexorably led to the influencer/follower thing, was always something I hated.
well, the privacy angle doesn't work with normies, but maybe "they are manipulating what you think by filtering your timeline" would reach them a bit better but really, at some point you gotta say, if they want to live in an imaginary dystopia and not be in the real world you have to cut back on how much attention they get from you, because they aren't going to have a genuine conversation with you when their head is filled with bullshit
Yeah, I've tried that angle as well, but unfortunately, they either don't care or they're not interested in really doing anything about it. Unfortunate, but that's just the way people are these days, sadly. I did just deactivate my Facebook about an hour ago. I figure that Messenger is still available if they need to get in touch but otherwise, it will keep me offline, save me some time, and hopefully send a message that I'm not really interested in keeping Facebook in the long run. Doubt it will do much of anything, but I guess we'll see.
i think the whole model of influencoor/fan and thousands and millions of followers is not a natural phenomenon but one which is actively cultivated in order to create idols for people to worship and ultimately, mistaking a fetish for the real thing is classic primitive child-like thinking and if people are stuck in that mindset they are not going to listen to you when you tell them that the sun is going to come up tomorrow regardless of whether the shaman murders another virgin on the top of the pyramid
I agree entirely. I've been saying that since way back when; I was a late arrival to social media, only joining Facebook in 2011 after friends at school insisted I should get it since the private school I was attending was going to shut down after that year, and at the time, better options didn't really exist. I used to hang out on forums before that (and I still prefer forums to just about everything else), and even after I did get Facebook, I only friended people I knew in person. The whole "hundreds of friends" thing, which inexorably led to the influencer/follower thing, was always something I hated.
