semantics is important. that's why we have words.

it's not force, it's manipulation. they are hoping to NOT use force on you that's why they make threats.

they get a lot of cameras on one case and then everyone else is afraid to risk it but if you do the analysis on the cost of that example of violence you'll realise they can't afford to do that very often in fact

that's why so many of us didn't submit... i even crossed borders without it and because of where i was, nothing happened

if there's anyone who understands the distinction between coercion (a climate of fear) and actual violence, it's people who have lived under communism, and they all are sullen and resigned... when i went through the border into bulgaria from serbia one time, the dude asks if i have a test certificate, i say no, he says "we have a problem" then waves me on and i say "what" and he just looks into the distance and waves me again

that's coercion... an illusion of potential violence

usually done because actual violence is too dangerous to try 

 There’s nothing illusionary about the state’s threat of violence. 

If you resist the state authority you *might* be punished. That is the threat based on example of force used on others. Thus the “threat of violence” by the state onto the people is equally as UNJUST as actual violence carried out. 

What good would their threats be if no one believed there is a *chance* to have actual force carried out on them? 

My family fled communism after ww2 and I can tell you that this argument is retarded. 

 The guys couldn't be forced to get the vaxx, and it paid off:
https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/bart-employees-refused-covid-vaccine-get-payout-19861708.php

> “Six former BART employees are each due a $1 million payout after accusing the agency of wrongly firing them because of a COVID-19 vaccine mandate.

> On Wednesday, a jury in the U.S District Court for the Northern District of California sided with the employees who refused the vaccine for religious reasons*. BART has been ordered to pay the group more than $7.8 million, with the individual employees receiving between nearly $1.2 million and $1.5 million each.

> In October 2021, BART’s Board of Directors approved the mandate, stating that all employees must be vaccinated against the virus, though it allowed for some exceptions, including religious accommodations.” 

 coercion is where you make threats and give the option you want with no threat attached

it's threat, not force, they may or may not be able to actually do it, teh point is it's manipulation and it requires "exemplary violence" against a few to make everyone scared

the monopoly on drugs works like this, as does taxation

there is a difference between a threat and actual violence

they can't use force all the time or they would have an uprising and that's the end 

 if you think words are force then i have no words

you just have to say "idgaf" and do it anyway, with a bit more discretion, and probably they are not gonna do anything

that's how you end up with all these drugs everywhere, and many studies have shown that the monopoly on drugs exercised by the state using coercion actually increases overall drug use where a lot less people would otherwise use drugs

but i think it's also that when you live in a society where coercion is used, you seek escape from the mental prison that coercion entails

it's not violence if it's just words, but it can be as oppressive even still