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 @strike yo 
 Im not in love with them for initial onboarding 
 Strike wants a lot of KYC.  If we are to be private and self sovereign- strike is not the answer. 
 True. Muun? Trying to help plebs with easiest simplest LN wallets 
 I have had Muun for a long time.  Each time I send sats I loose a fuck ton of sats.  No thanks. 
 It's an onchain wallet that does submarine swaps when it needs to send lightning. You lose sats because you're paying onchain fees for lightning txns  
 Lol I aint mad atcha! Phoenix or Breez homie 
 @jack mallers 
 I agree, but if you wanna be private and self sovereign then WoS isn’t the answer either. just because they didn’t follow the rules doesn’t mean it’s a solution (i love them btw, Lightning legends)

i’d recommend Breez, Muun, Mutiny, or Phoenix for privacy and self sovereignty 
 Do you think the BSA and FinCEN should be abolished? 
 of course. we follow the rules because I don’t want Coinbase being the ones representing on-ramps and regulated services globally. we need Bitcoiners in the ring and we want to be here forever

but the rules themselves? we’re likely better off without them 
 sometimes you gotta go along to get along 
 you gotta be in the game to win the game 
 you gotta free the money or let the money break you. 

change the game, don’t let the game change you. 
 None of them give you a proper lighting address tho like wos does.
That’s the bigger issue.
What are the options for that?
Zeus, ZBD & fountain? 
 hmm, not sure. it’s much more difficult to do Lightning Addresses non-custodial. ZBD and Fountain are custodial, so same as Steike

Zeus might work if they offer Lightning Address? 
 They do in the TestFlight on iOS now. Not sure about other platforms. 
 They also have a node in the phone now