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 @c721880c There has also been a complete halt to any meaningful innovation in the smartphone space for the past 10 years. There really is no reason to buy a brand new smartphone other than a 2% performance increase or having 6 instead of 5 cameras. 
 @e277f9e5 it's a mature technology in other words, just like a toaster 
 @c721880c I don't think so, there's many things they can improve on like power efficiency, making phones actually smaller, adding actual useful features, improving repairability, improving product lifecycle, using more eco friendly materials, and especially making their software more freedom and privacy respecting.

But instead of doing actual good things phone companies just be like "add another camera and call it a day". 
 @e277f9e5 it's not really your opinion that decides if it's mature or not though. you just look at the pace of innovation and if the curve has flattened, it's mature as far as the market is concerned - i could have said "mature market" instead 
 @e277f9e5 these improvements you mention are only going to happen if there is an incentive for it. there are things that could be improved about toasters too but there's no incentive. 
 @c721880c With household appliances such as toasters I think you could actually argue that toasters from the 80s and 90s are much better than toasters today, as many appliances today are made a lot more cheaply and aren't built to last. 
 @e277f9e5 yeah, sure, but build quality isn't how this term is used. actually, when you start to see poorly built versions of a technology, that's one sign that it's mature. or when they start to put it in toys. 
 @c721880c I think the entire smartphone market is basically Apple doing random stuff and all the other companies just trying to copy that.

I don't think if mature market is the right word for that, it's mostly monopoly maybe? 
 @e277f9e5 i see that Wikipedia doesn't mention smartphones as a mature technology and computers are still considered "not yet fully mature" - but they're getting there, and i'd say smartphones are also getting there

https://media.berserker.town/media_attachments/files/111/063/270/284/571/977/original/90342778d059d8ae.jpeg 
 @e277f9e5 it's not so much a monopoly but they are the market leader, with Samsung following closely behind