Oddbean

Few are paying a bill with #v4v right now. The stage we are in is “holy shit, this is better than Spotify!” What’s wrong with having money? Putting it to good use? There are services now like Bitwell and Bitrefill for those who need to convert to bill-paying currency. Also, we are American. Think of what #v4v can do for someone in a country with hyperinflation like Argentina, Venezuela… @manlikekweks and I talked about how v4V literally pays his bills in Tanzania.

Also i am here to build a community that exchanges with each other. I don’t want a 1k sat zap for a meme. I want to do a 40k bag of coffee or 75k bag of jerky. These examples are v4v as well its just disguised as commerce

I’ll keep saying it till I’m blue in the berries, v4v never was and never will be just about money. nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzp87w8t4r9v6kx7pcldzmwklryk2hgtskhvlywskvs2an658epplxqyd8wumn8ghj7ur4wfshv6tyvyhxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7qpqkapz4y7nfmlxttlqq6gz5u9mdvwxlrpzn4qvukz82jc4vyuylhtqd54ucz

So list everything it’s about if it’s about more than money. Part of the money issue is creative freedom, as in having no advertisers. Lemme go back to radio and talk over song ramps and play screaming car ads… where no local artists ever get played. Where no indie artists never get a chance…

Some would say time, talent, and treasure. Some would say lists should be avoided at all costs. I recognize the following of equal and important value compared to financial support (I'm leaving a space with a mark for easy copy pasta, would you kindly respond with why you think money is of more value than what's listed). In no particular order and incompletable, presented without commercial break... V4V, The list: Leaving a voicemail ⚡ Sharing posts related to the material you publish ⚡ Sharing your media with a friend, aka "passing the bowl" ⚡ Texting in feet pictures ⚡ Reaching out to someone in those rocky patches ⚡ Mailing posters and letters snail mail style ⚡ Making stickers ⚡ Creating and maintaining a merch store ⚡ Making gifs ⚡ Making showart ⚡ Troubleshooting updated rss feeds at 4am ⚡ Panic calling a friend for node assistance ⚡ Providing expertise as run crew for shows ⚡ Producing Concerts ⚡ Splitting you and 69 of your closest friends into a fat ass value split ⚡ Hosting media and rss feeds for friends and family ⚡ Writing music with one another ⚡ Hosting movie nights ⚡ Hosting game nights ⚡ "Wine Gravy" ⚡ Producing show notes ⚡ Suggesting show material ⚡ Hanging out in the chats ⚡ Zeronode ⚡ Zeronode ⚡ Zeronode ⚡ Gal, isobot, and the rest of the IRC bot gang ⚡ IRCacophony ⚡ "What new ways should we torture the gimp?" ⚡ Maintaining art generators ⚡ Traveling across countries to see and touch one another ⚡ Sharing drugs with each other ⚡ Making coasters ⚡ Drawing avatars ⚡ Running fediverse instances ⚡ Teachable moments ⚡ Creating jingles ⚡ Sending in isos ⚡ "Pro-Mom Channels" ⚡ Boost Scoreboards ⚡ Boost Alerts ⚡ Contributing bug reports ⚡ Suggesting features or enhancements for software ⚡ Boobs on the ground interviews ⚡ Sending in clips of podcasts to shows like ms. informed NAtion ⚡ Requesting songs ⚡ Curating playlists for music shows ⚡ Morale support in times of tech woes ⚡ Sending in volumes of encyclopedias ⚡ Making buttons ⚡ Writing you and memes around you into comic books ⚡ Turning you into a meme ⚡ Gifting tarot decks ⚡ photos of Mothman with thick ass, keep em coming ⚡ The "Mothman Blesseth the Tig Ole Biddies" iso, instant classic ⚡ Programmers in general who share their technoalchemy ⚡ Why fret over monetization and paying the bills when you can make a real bond out there with people that want more in life than just hanging out at Dave and Busters? As far as the radio mention is concerned, there was ample time to tune in being homeschooled. It didn't take a trip down to the crossroads to figure out it was all clear channel (at the time at least). Radio Nowhere etc etc. Empires come in, find "it", box "it", redefine "it", resell "it" to the masses. I didn't start a podcast to pay the bills, I started a podcast have a hobby. Every week this is a money losing venture, and Hell yea brother hallelujah amen and awoman. If people wanna support you, it's not your responsibility to define what value is to them. Value for value is about making this the type of production you wanna hear (wherever terms may apply, see inside for details), pouring water into the things you want to see grow. Monetization, discovery, but how does it scale, nah. Those terms are ready and ripe for a good ole' scissoring right the fuck out of here. Snip snip. /me plants pirate flag firmly, boldly but misjudges the angle of the pole, sending pointy end down puncturing the foot resulting in a realistic, bloody bizarre...and almost tragic depiction of a Tom and Jerry cartoon. Fuck! I forgot to mention the Gal++ tattoo. As penance for the aforementioned crime of omitting something from a list, I'll share a bonus clip from the most important movie ever made in addition to the promised Bill Hicks drop. https://video.nostr.build/7c841534b73875a9e74c4bc8461a025a04e11d1a156d3dcd5b42ebfca79655cc.mp4 https://audio.nostr.build/82cef16ee15b67d99b01cc30148ff5cfeb759a2d3e1e4380299e851612c03d27.mp3 love is lit o7

These post tent to come off as cocky or arrogant but we believe in the V4V model that Adam Curry and John C Dvorak pioneered more than we do most other things and its the bedrock we are building on. No amount of money could built the awesomeness that is liveislit.com https://image.nostr.build/83205cd2a77a69d6e827a1496c7f465a7ff5cf1bc49298156612b2f2b897327e.jpg

I think it’s cringe to HFSP. I want MOAR #v4v podcasters and more artists throwing their music into the Valueverse. I’m never going to tell an artist, who’s been reduced to dancing on TikTok and selling merch, that they can put their music online so someone can pay them with a drawing or some goofball inside joke stuff only the cult understands. If y’all want to keep this space small and make it a forever hobby, that’s cool. If y’all want to be entrepreneurs, that’s cool too. I’m here to change a system that’s fucked me and so many others.

Have Fun Staying Poor, as we Bitcoiners say to pre-coiners and no coiners. You can get zaps and boosts in the hardest money on the planet, and why not? Have all your “non cringe” goodies come to you and BTC too. Win win for you and the artists.

https://lnbeats.com/album/e4127b7b-7048-520b-a50c-59ebddbbe2fc/aHR0cHM6Ly9tdXNpYy5iZWhpbmR0aGVzY2gzbTNzLmNvbS93cC1jb250ZW50L3VwbG9hZHMvYm9vLWJ1cnkvVGhlc2UlMjBQZW9wbGUvQm9vJTIwV2FudHMlMjBBY3Rpb24ubXAz

zapped! I've always generously zapped on @wavlake, @fountain_app, LN Beats, @tunestr and #Nostr I've received generous zaps too due to @RadioDetox and Monday night #yogastr and general shenanigans on here. I put my BTC where my mouth is.

Just downloaded the .csv from my helipad, this next boost I'm about to send brings me to a satany 6,666,666 sats. That's just from sitting at the desk with a node in a Super Nintendo encolsure, not factoring in any apps. Boostcli++ If I we're to factor in the apps and physically gifting someone sats as well, it looks like my mouth is right there along flapping with you. Except your shit is fucked up, looks like you need some liquidity. https://image.nostr.build/52e5775d34e3eaa7e866a0d0d2feb61127498a97326a6285d0868d987630b041.png Thank you for the value. My song is worth more than that, send a bigger boost.

That is noise 🤣 worth less than the 1k I was trying to zap. Thanks for being so welcoming though. I’m sure others watching will see this and think, wow, what a wonderful thing to be a part of 🧡💜 Nothing cooler than bullying someone who just closed a channel 🤷‍♀️ The cream will rise. Good music will receive fat zaps. If you’re mad my zap was small, make music. If you want more people in the space, maybe don’t talk down to them in jargon line you’re defending…what really? Who sees this exchange and thinks this looks fun? But you don’t want more people here, do you? You want to run off people like myself? I’m not going anywhere. Deal with me.

Damn straight feathers are ruffled, I laid out exactly where that flag is (impaled but my foot). The repeated cult insinuations are a nice touch. You absolutely came in with indoctrination. “But how can I get more eyes on this.” You’ve transmuted my point of “there’s more ways to support someone with money” into this holier than tho “I’m just getting started.” Would you kindly refrain from referring to my music as simply noise, if it wasn’t valuable it wouldn’t be online.

Anyone can put anything online, this does not mean it has value. Let the market decide. 🤷‍♀️ what a concept. You still think it’s an either/or argument but do you, Boo. Face it, we all sound like a cult and it’s not growing this thing. We need to do better. I’m willing. Are you? Fighting like two dudes over who has the biggest swinging dick also isn’t getting artists paid, changing the music industry, or creating good content. Anyone watching this is watching you and me like Tyson vs Paul. And that was trash 🤣 And yeah, I will forever grow what I am doing, getting more eyes on it, onboarding more people. Not sure what’s wrong with that. But do you, Boo. I welcome the fun 🤩 you don’t scare me.

Didn’t watch that fight, was working and also if anything this thread is way more Jimmy and Timmy. You’ve loaded this thread with innuendos and insults, bold move cotton let’s hope it pays off. This attempt of spinning my words into “intimidation tactics” is just weird. I don’t get it. But you do you too boo. Still doesn’t change that there’s more ways to spread value than money. #stayhard #stayhungry

And still won’t change that artists want to get paid in money. And that there’s nothing wrong with that. There was no need to get fragile about it 🤷‍♀️ Guess you didn’t expect me to throw it back? 🤣 Didn’t expect the new girl to have her own opinions? Cool, Boo.

Yea I heard you, starving fragile cult member etc etc. What I wasn’t expecting was the level of pettiness. “Didn’t expect the new girl to have her own opinions”, can you expand on what it is you’re trying to get at here?

I don’t have to. People understand your projection. To all who see this, especially women coming into this space, trying to do music or podcasting or whatever, please tag me when Boo or anyone else tries to come in here and argue with you about your take, bully you about your node, or argue that artists should just ask for barter rather than the hardest money on the planet. Or any money. No one owns #v4v and what it’s about. No one owns #nostr or RSS. When new people come in, I will always welcome them. To get offended to the extent you have it pretty telling.