Also i am here to build a community that exchanges with each other. I don’t want a 1k sat zap for a meme. I want to do a 40k bag of coffee or 75k bag of jerky. 
These examples are v4v as well its just disguised as commerce 

 It’s barter. I just wanna pay for stuff. Barter is ok, but doesn’t excite me. But I also offer services, not goods.