YES SIR 

 AND USE WHAT NOSTR-BASED ALTERNATIVE SIR? 

 THERE IS A NIP FOR PUBLIC CHATS BUT I DON'T THINK MANY CLIENTS IMPLEMENTED IT https://nostr-nips.com/nip-28 

 DOES NOT EXIST YET BUT  @JeffG WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UNTIL THEN SIGNAL / SIMPLEX / MATRIX / THREEMA ARE SOLID. 

  https://image.nostr.build/f2879c1676dc5d9829ebf34c613159440c79329b9f13b28e7670a146ad478ea1.gif  

 All have "backdoors" to national security of usa.

ur pattern odell begin to show to everyone. Careful butterin was in that pattern to.   

 Ohhh shit someone’s actually gonna work on this? That’s gonna be dope 👏 

 I like sessions. Am i the only one? Its basically a telegram replacement. 

 Never heard of it tbh. 

 😶‍🌫️they hide in plain sight so it can be hard to know. Xxmp though has been around a long time, im not entirely sure but I think he's one of the chair for bluesky 

 Keet.io 

 not until it's open source 

 Never had it and never will 🫡 

 Not the first time I saw that. So I never go on there. But I need to axe it. 

 BEEN DID THAT 🫡 

 Yes. Any app that doesn't allow you to change from their default servers is bad.
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 🎯🙌🫡 

 Keet 😉
Need a vpn if youre worried about the other end knowing your IP, but fully p2p 

 Also not open source yet. But still cool af 😂 

 Source? 

 So, how am I supposed to use @lnp2pBot without Telegram? It might be spyware, but right now it's undeniably useful unfortunately. Is there a way to port lnp2pbot to Keet, or some other p2p app?  

 I don't think true P2P will ever work out for messaging, encrypted messages being sent via relays is fine. lnp2pbot should build on top of (currently very bad) Nostr DMs or SimpleX instead 

 Telegram has cost me so much. And helped me troubleshoot bitcoin tech but overall I hate it 

 https://media1.tenor.com/m/5N9derc9UcgAAAAC/no-bugs-bunny.gif

There are groups and resources that I use to run my lightning node better

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 Signal 

 simplex-chat 

 +1 

 Gd 

 I'VE TRIED SUGGESTING ALTERNATIVES TO MY GROUPS AND THEY WONT BUDGE 

 Simplex ✅️ 

 Kinda hate simplex. Idk what it is. 

 APPLE OS AND GOOGLE ANDROID TOO 😱😱😱 

 What isn’t nowadays… 

 Is there any evidence to this very alarming statement ? 

 it's only OK for public discussion. whatever you consider private don't do there
(including obfuscating your identity) 

 The only reason I installed Telegram was bc I went to #Nostrica 

 Ever been. 

 Signal is spyware too, since the CIA backdoored it (it wasn't discovered until 2019 in the Android repo). 

 That's a load of bullshit. 

 Ha ! I have just said so in Start9 Telegram support chat.  I asked a technical question, and 5 secs later, I got 2 private DM offering their support.  Burn in hell, scammers !

 

 @ODELL Recommendations on alternative(s)? 

 Signal 

 SIMPLEX 

 beeper  

 ICQ 

 Leo, is ICQ shutting down ? 

 Sorry, it was a bad joke. ICQ shut down already. 

 use beeper  

 I'm really interesting, if it's not same shit in different body / app? 

 I'm doing this thanks  

 Everybody says so, but so far I didn't see any realistic proof, other, that it's "russian guy" behind. There is of course some concerns, lot of spam and frauds (well, when Nostr hit's majority user, guess what happens here), but I can hardly find so well supported and community used alternative. It is what it is.  

 Not sure I'd call #Telegram a spyware per se, but despite a pretty good UI/UX, it is very bad on so many aspects 😣

Nothing is E2E encrypted by default, DM, groups (groups never are, on Telegram).
And rule number one of cryptography is: you do NOT roll out your own crypto!!!

Too bad it's so convenient.
We need good alternatives ASAP.

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 Leaders lead 🫡 

 Spyware for who?  

 well, that's just fucking great. 
I'm not feeling bullish on this shit lately.  every time i turn around i feel another tug at a rug.
 

 I agree... Thinking of starting an in the woods meetup, no fucking electronics within 1 mile of the meeting. I'm sick of this shit.  

 Done🏴 

 INTERNET IS A SPYWARE.
DELETE IT. 

 Most essential bitcoin related groups are there. 

 For example?

I was under the impression they were on XTwitter. 

 Sparrow, RoninDojo, SeedSigner, Phoenix, Bisq... 

 Unfortunately  

 Not sure why they stubbornly refuse to switch.. proly to functionality wins. 

 YOUR SMARTPHONE IS A SPYWARE

THROW IT 🚮 

 Can I shitpost first? 

 https://image.nostr.build/b34cc8d4a29e6af3de73813abb2c3f105c5435bc0951e69f21a98e319065a065.gif 

 Phones for the #plebs! 

#bitcoinfixesthis 

 ok, right after this note...

*tosses off bridge*

*thinks... hmmm that may have been a little impulsive*

#noregurts ;)

#smij #zapd 

 alternative?? 

 simplex chat. 

 excellent, but only 0.00000001% of the population uses it and that makes it unnecessary. 

 Agree bro, if u think...no one excelent choice of p8 and sec app is popular. 

 Still use some groups there... simplex is not widely used 

 👇 

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 Stop lying. And tell everyone why ? Why always recommand tech that are bugs w usa intelligence enterprise ?

 

 https://m.primal.net/IWOD.png  

 I agree and would love to, unfortunately a lot of Bitcoin communities are on Telegram with no alternative like e.g. Simplex. 

 Be the change… 

 For my app I've added a SimpleX fullly anon channel alongside the existing Telegram one (and nostr of course)

https://chat.frankie-gpt.com/public/help 

 Keet.io - @bitcoin 🔥 (invite expires on 2024/6/19 11:40 UTC) 

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 Join me on Keet.io - The Psychedelic Libertarian Repository (no expiry)

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 only shitcoin scammers still use telegram. 

 Still amazed how many spots are like “join the telegram group”. What, is this 2017 still? 

 Done and dusted 

 Its true and very strange that its managed to hang on so long. Delete it.

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 i use it not for chatting but for piracy. Books, class courses, etc. Is there any alternative for this? 

 So that reaction is about this :
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 TG is the best messenger out there. Anyone who thinks that they can make normies using Signal or Simplex for privacy, security or virtues reasons is delusional. 

 But isn't Signal spyware too? 

 I know molly is a hardened version of signal still required to give your number.