TELEGRAM IS SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.


YES SIR


AND USE WHAT NOSTR-BASED ALTERNATIVE SIR?


Never had it and never will 🫡


Not the first time I saw that. So I never go on there. But I need to axe it.


THERE IS A NIP FOR PUBLIC CHATS BUT I DON'T THINK MANY CLIENTS IMPLEMENTED IT https://nostr-nips.com/nip-28


DOES NOT EXIST YET BUT  nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UNTIL THEN SIGNAL / SIMPLEX / MATRIX / THREEMA ARE SOLID.


BEEN DID THAT 🫡


Yes. Any app that doesn't allow you to change from their default servers is bad.
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Onward 🫡


Keet 😉
Need a vpn if youre worried about the other end knowing your IP, but fully p2p


Also not open source yet. But still cool af 😂


Source?


So, how am I supposed to use nostr:npub1lnp2p0v0tqpldhvtyqdpmkm85jmwy6phrlnn202p62mxsjhh5c0q5lyurp without Telegram? It might be spyware, but right now it's undeniably useful unfortunately. Is there a way to port lnp2pbot to Keet, or some other p2p app?


Telegram has cost me so much. And helped me troubleshoot bitcoin tech but overall I hate it


https://media1.tenor.com/m/5N9derc9UcgAAAAC/no-bugs-bunny.gif

There are groups and resources that I use to run my lightning node better

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I don't think true P2P will ever work out for messaging, encrypted messages being sent via relays is fine. lnp2pbot should build on top of (currently very bad) Nostr DMs or SimpleX instead


Signal


TELEGRAM IS SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.


simplex-chat


Gd


I'VE TRIED SUGGESTING ALTERNATIVES TO MY GROUPS AND THEY WONT BUDGE


APPLE OS AND GOOGLE ANDROID TOO 😱😱😱


What isn’t nowadays…


Is there any evidence to this very alarming statement ?


it's only OK for public discussion. whatever you consider private don't do there
(including obfuscating your identity)


Simplex ✅


The only reason I installed Telegram was bc I went to #Nostrica


Onward 🫡


Ever been.


Signal is spyware too, since the CIA backdoored it (it wasn't discovered until 2019 in the Android repo).


Ha ! I have just said so in Start9 Telegram support chat.  I asked a technical question, and 5 secs later, I got 2 private DM offering their support.  Burn in hell, scammers !


nostr:npub1qny3tkh0acurzla8x3zy4nhrjz5zd8l9sy9jys09umwng00manysew95gx Recommendations on alternative(s)?


ty


Signal


TELEGRAM IS SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.


That's a load of bullshit.


SIMPLEX


Kinda hate simplex. Idk what it is.


use beeper


beeper


I'm doing this thanks


I'm really interesting, if it's not same shit in different body / app?


Everybody says so, but so far I didn't see any realistic proof, other, that it's "russian guy" behind. There is of course some concerns, lot of spam and frauds (well, when Nostr hit's majority user, guess what happens here), but I can hardly find so well supported and community used alternative. It is what it is.


Not sure I'd call #Telegram a spyware per se, but despite a pretty good UI/UX, it is very bad on so many aspects 😣

Nothing is E2E encrypted by default, DM, groups (groups never are, on Telegram).
And rule number one of cryptography is: you do NOT roll out your own crypto!!!

Too bad it's so convenient.
We need good alternatives ASAP.

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Onward 🫡


Leaders lead 🫡


Spyware for who?


well, that's just fucking great.
I'm not feeling bullish on this shit lately.  every time i turn around i feel another tug at a rug.


Done🏴


INTERNET IS A SPYWARE.
DELETE IT.


Most essential bitcoin related groups are there.


TELEGRAM IS SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.


YOUR SMARTPHONE IS A SPYWARE

THROW IT 🚮


For example?

I was under the impression they were on XTwitter.


alternative??


Sparrow, RoninDojo, SeedSigner, Phoenix, Bisq...


Keet.io


Can I shitpost first?


simplex chat.


I agree... Thinking of starting an in the woods meetup, no fucking electronics within 1 mile of the meeting. I'm sick of this shit.


Unfortunately


excellent, but only 0.00000001% of the population uses it and that makes it unnecessary.


Agree bro, if u think...no one excelent choice of p8 and sec app is popular.


Onward 🫡


Not sure why they stubbornly refuse to switch.. proly to functionality wins.


Still use some groups there... simplex is not widely used


👇

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not until it's open source


Stop lying. And tell everyone why ? Why always recommand tech that are bugs w usa intelligence enterprise ?


All have "backdoors" to national security of usa.

ur pattern odell begin to show to everyone. Careful butterin was in that pattern to.


Ohhh shit someone’s actually gonna work on this? That’s gonna be dope 👏


I agree and would love to, unfortunately a lot of Bitcoin communities are on Telegram with no alternative like e.g. Simplex.


only shitcoin scammers still use telegram.


Still amazed how many spots are like “join the telegram group”. What, is this 2017 still?


Be the change…


Done and dusted


ICQ


Its true and very strange that its managed to hang on so long. Delete it.

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I like sessions. Am i the only one? Its basically a telegram replacement.


For my app I've added a SimpleX fullly anon channel alongside the existing Telegram one (and nostr of course)

https://chat.frankie-gpt.com/public/help


i use it not for chatting but for piracy. Books, class courses, etc. Is there any alternative for this?


Phones for the #plebs!

#bitcoinfixesthis


ok, right after this note...

*tosses off bridge*

*thinks... hmmm that may have been a little impulsive*

#noregurts ;)

#smij #zapd


So that reaction is about this :
https://image.nostr.build/cab54f428f8172265c0399fee7d55ad66c50634d10a38320a2f4b926c54e0d4e.jpg


Awesome!
Just gotta nuke google now for nextcloud/onlyoffice.
Nuke discord for nostr, maybe some matrix and session too.
Nuke twitter, insta and fedbook for nostr.
Nuke youtube, netflix and spotify for peerhub.
Nuke all their apps for grayjay or fountain.


TELEGRAM IS SPYWARE.

DELETE IT.


TG is the best messenger out there. Anyone who thinks that they can make normies using Signal or Simplex for privacy, security or virtues reasons is delusional.


But isn't Signal spyware too?


I know molly is a hardened version of signal still required to give your number.


Leo, is ICQ shutting down ?


Never heard of it tbh.


😶🌫they hide in plain sight so it can be hard to know. Xxmp though has been around a long time, im not entirely sure but I think he's one of the chair for bluesky


Sorry, it was a bad joke. ICQ shut down already.


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