It all started when my on ramp coinsquare gave up all there client list and wallet addresses for high profile investors. Much of my crypto assets were being traded on HitBTC who had my KYC info because I was leverage trading which is illegal in Canada. To stay legal I had to transfer my assets to Coinbase to avoid paying income tax of those funds as long as I held them in bitcoin or eth otherwise a tax event occurs. Coinbase sends me a monthly statement of my holdings and forwards that same info to CRA so they know I'm not practicing tax evasion.  I leave my Coinbase account going as a way to appease the government, but trust me I  handle my other stuff completely different now.  

 Most Canadians are probably fine for now, CRA is basically bothering all digital asset companies for users buying or trading over 20 thousand a year and going after those identities. They don't have the man power to go after everyone and are getting companies like sgakepay, coinsquare, wealth simple to do the heavy lifting as far ats identifying users of interest and then if you don't list on your current tax return crypto assets they flag you for a tax audit and the investigation begins. If you say you lost your BTC in a boating accident they make you pay full capital gains on it anyway or you can get off the hook if you can prove you still have it via wallet addresses and such that they use glass node to verify. Hence my leaving stuff on Coinbase to avoid tax implications  and prove where the BTC is. They are systematically putting the squeeze on all exchanges and one by one they are  bowing to the pressure to stay in business.  

 Ugh I should stop using shakepay, but its the only way I can actually use my bitcoin in the real world. I don’t trade, but I do sell lots to pay bills. 

 Bull Bitcoin and Bitcoin Well let you sell BTC directly to pay off bills and also eTransfer withdrawals 

 “That is why we ask for minimum personal information and offer no-KYC payment services for amounts below $1000.”

Looks like its still kyc though. Maybe need to get serious and use robosats/bisq more. 

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 Shakepay is 100% KYC though? 

Bull Bitcoin lets you do a lot of stuff without KYC.  

 Right, im looking for Shakepay alternatives. Going to try using robosats more. Last time I tried there wasn’t much liquidity 

 I don't think you can use robosats to pay bills though? Just buy/sell BTC

Localbitcoins used to be my jam. Bisq and robosats had garbage liquidity when I tried them 3 months ago. Hardly more than 20k CAD of depth before +/- 10% swings 

 True Robosats has low liquidity, but will only improve if we all use it, even small amounts for now :) 

 I was the only seller on the site, $1000 over lightning. It took a bit but it worked. No kyc. Promising. 

 Nice, you can get away with charging a bit of a premium for non-kyc sats if there is no competition 

 I think @ray and civkit team are on to something where there is an underlying protocol for all the ethical p2p btc marketplaces, where nostr plays the nym and coordination layer. Maybe if robosats, bisq, hodhodl etc built on a common protocol there could be increased liquidity. 

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 Right, can’t pay bills, a p2p platform to buy/sell 

 Ah, you moved enough to trigger them. Well, good to know you learned from it, at least, and can teach the rest of us before we trigger things.