Oddbean new post about login | logout Highly experimental Lightning address that will lead to loss of funds: <npub>@cashu.me
Interesting - fast pace of development, it's amazing to watch it playing out nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzq5xeflpdskqvdq4swxj59793uvdzqzc9pzatjk3nhmcg2h0js8trqvzqqqqqqyflj0zs
It works :)
It worked. WalletofSatoshi sent to npub, redeemed with @Nimo Cash
https://m.primal.net/HRjj.png sent to myself 🤣
I am ready to lose funds! 🔥
Interesting.
This... could be wild. nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcpzpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5hszrnhwden5te0dehhxtnvdakz7qgnwaehxw309ahkvenrdpskjm3wwp6kytcpzamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumn0dahx2uewvdhk6tcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezucnfw33k76twv4ezuum0vd5kzmp0qyv8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnnv4kkjum0dshxgetk9uq32amnwvaz7tmjv4kxz7fwv3sk6atn9e5k7tcprpmhxue69uhhyetvv9ujucm4wfex2mn59en8j6f0qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytndw46xjmnewaskcmr9wshxxmmd9ukxr28x
Tried it and it worked first time, brilliant! I love experimental
Nice. I'm moving to me@npub.nostr for git integration with #nosdav. May be another decentralized option, for the future ... https://dnstr.org/
I couldn't get it to work with Blixt or Phoenix.
I think it relies on the privacy-invazive zap flow, meaning your LN tip leaves traces in nostr events of who sent the sats. Otherwise it wouldn't know the npub of the sender, e.g. who to send the DM to with the token.
AFAIK Blixt and Phoenix do the plain anonymous "pay to LN Address flow", which doesn't touch nostr.
My bad, looks like it works with normal "pay to LN Address" too. nostr:note12uef3dqxsf46d4vrszvjwgjgytfcdzgm8v6jgw3ha3pjzfyhcl2q07ppmc
Worked with WOS. I need to update my Phoenix wallet. This is amazing.
Experimental my NUTS! It worked 😅🥜🐿️🧡 https://i.nostr.build/5JRv.jpg
It works, I don't understand it yet, but I will learn 🤙
Worked in @Wallet of Satoshi but not @OpenSecret 🥜
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On the sending side or receiving side?
Sending side 📨
ERROR: Failed to call on the given LNURL.
Reproduce. Will take a look. @benthecarman's LNURL rust library probably needs an update for these.
@calle 👁️⚡👁️ see a couple small things on your end, not putting the empty routes array and missing the text/identifier item in your Metadata. Added a test in the library and it seems to work, will need to debug more.
Weird, mutiny is getting a 404 response. Maybe something weird with browsers?
:( will add!
I tried from wos, it starts but it doesn't arrive 🤷 I'm definitely doing something wrong. https://image.nostr.build/978de34828fb9b2e4bced0feee4bdbd852bacd532bf46ac5d96047b49eb7e03f.jpg
try using enuts
Yooo @Vitor Pamplona We need to fix the Amethyst integrarion to use the fee endpoint (GET /checkfees) - afaik it's just eyeballing it right now!
Thanks for the heads up. I will see if I can add this today.
Here is the spec! It's just missing one previous request (/checkfees). The sendable amount is then token_amount-fee_reserve. If we had a full Cashu wallet in Amethyst, we could also get the overpaid fees back but unfortunately it won't work without the lib. Step by step! ☺️
Oops, forgot link https://github.com/cashubtc/nuts/blob/main/05.md#checking-lightning-fees
This what I got. https://image.nostr.build/553963f3a5bfc521e504a41f376a49665dc1a0a73d7f371ed66a63acf6ceac13.jpg
i was able to claim that using enuts app. but not in nostr client (amethyst). try enuts.
That worked 💪
cashu.me also worked, cool thing. @Vitor Pamplona Amethyst needs some nut love
How? We need self custody lightning wallets that can do roger@walletofsatoshi.com is so easy to transmit the address to receive funds, is this it?
Works better than described (no funds lost).
...wait , but ...what? Does this turn your ln into a nut?
Worked, flow was a bit odd. First tap of redeem button didn't show anything. Second tap gave an error (didn't record it). Third tap gave an already spent error. This was on amethyst client. Went to ln address set for zaps. Thought I thought I had to claim at cashu.me So overall seemed fine. Not sure why I didn't see confirmation message that it was redeemed in amethyst. But I believe that's the NOSTR client.
I guess Nostr won just now 🥜 nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcppamhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt0d5pzq5xeflpdskqvdq4swxj59793uvdzqzc9pzatjk3nhmcg2h0js8trqvzqqqqqqyflj0zs
I'm curious about the privacy implications here. Does this actually solve the custodial receive problem for people who run their own node but don't want to expose their router's IP to receive sats?
Yes it solves that problem, but adds trust in the mint. You're not receiving sats per se, you're receiving cashu, which is redeemable to sats via the mint.
Right, so the redeem does not happen directly from ZEUS for example? It's still a manual process for each zap through a mint like cashu.me ? So is the most convenient method to receive/redeem via some cashu app? But still send zaps using a lightning wallet like ZEUS or Mutiny?
Works with Phoenix. Received the DM and dropped the coin anonymously into https://nimo.cash/hello
Explain what @calle 👁️⚡👁️ is talking about like I'm retarded , because that is the reality we are living in right now. #AskNostr nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcpz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcpzq5xeflpdskqvdq4swxj59793uvdzqzc9pzatjk3nhmcg2h0js8trqvzqqqqqqyw6k58u
Wen NIP-57 for Cashu #zaps?
I wope up thinking about this exact idea, this is crazy. But what I was thinking is that nostr message metadata are public, so having all cashu payments come to your inbox might not be great, privacy wise. Is it possible to have 1 nostr npub that generates sub-npubs, like Bitcoin does with addresses? So the forwarder (cashu.me) would know the main pubkey but each payment coming to a different address.
Works with sats.mobi wallet! npub17nd4yu9anyd3004pumgrtazaacujjxwzj36thtqsxskjy0r5urgqf6950x@cashu.me https://image.nostr.build/5f3bdd4237d1b2900155b9e4d58943a048a78199680ce2cc3d213d577355a38c.png
I wasn't really jumping at this nutstuff originally, and it's probably still way too early, but while experimenting and playing around, this is pretty cool. nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzypgdjn7zmpvqc6ptqud9gtutrcc6yq9s2z96h9dr80hss4wl9qwkxqcyqqqqqqgsezu0x
Error when sending with Blixt Wallet:"Invalid invoice: Description hash is missing."
Holy shit, it worked! Here are my nuts 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
Wow, this was a mega mind blown moment. Like, wtf, someone call a doctor, I can't handle this!
Four of my favorite technologies mashed together: money, lightning, nostr, ecash.
This is one of those "holy shit, that's amazing" kinda inventions. nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzypgdjn7zmpvqc6ptqud9gtutrcc6yq9s2z96h9dr80hss4wl9qwkxqcyqqqqqqgsezu0x
This was one of those moments, where technology works so magically, that I start screaming uncontrollably, and the people next to me ask if I'm alright. It's not just that it works, but that you get a glimpse of what this technology might mean for humankind. nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqzypgdjn7zmpvqc6ptqud9gtutrcc6yq9s2z96h9dr80hss4wl9qwkxqcyqqqqqqgsezu0x
Max having a happy meltdown over nutzaps is exactly the start to the weekend I needed 😂😂
You are not alone 😂👌
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Never understand how cashu works or what it is exactly but great news anyway :))
here's a good overview https://thebitcoinmanual.com/articles/chaumian-ecash-bitcoin/ then check out #enuts https://www.enuts.cash/
Magic 👏 Time to spend some time learning about cashu
Is this supposed to be some kind of advertisement?!?
Vergat daar nog aan toe te voegen: bedankt voor al je (nog steeds) baanbrekende werk voor podcasting, ben groot fan. Heb je op onverantwoordelijke wijze wat V4V gestuurd. nostr:nevent1qqsyxqm23zlhvzhk4dvzu6wp5ge2u669n45wfdklewjdshxjsvur9zcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet5qgs9pk20ctv9srrg9vr354p03v0rrgsqkpggh2u45va77zz4mu5p6ccrqsqqqqqp7dhjgy
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