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 https://void.cat/d/T88weu5rDMp6HVQvS1zuLY.webp

Wow, Iris is Snort and Snort is Iris.

We're now working on the same codebase (from Snort) to avoid duplicate work and get more done. MIT license. Looking forward to bringing together the best of both clients.

If you prefer the old Iris, you can find it at https://old.iris.to. 
 Nice 💜 
 I'd call this pretty big news.

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 Irisnort 
 Bullish 
 So, Iris is Snort. /thread 
 I am you, you are me 🤣

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 Forse è l'occasione buona che insieme risolvete il problema della traduzione automatica delle note... 🤭 
 Bullish, getting together to optimize is absolutly the best atm to focus on UX rather then UI 
 Wow. Congratulations to my friends and super talented developers @Martti Malmi and @Kieran 🔥🔥🔥

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 Legends 🙇‍♂️ 
 What happens with Iris nip05? 
 Still works. 
 🙏 
 Iris SUCKS 
 👍 
 So Iris is just a white labelled Snort client now? Meaning it is Snort but the branding is changed to say Iris?

I love this plan!! You had similar visions anyway 
 Congrats! 
 This is awesome, exciting to see more collaboration 
 i'm building a CLI nostr keychain atm... nip06 is a bit funny, seems to me like nobody's actually implemented straight word keys. 
 hm maybe I am duplicating here, found something :D 
 🤔 
 👀👀👀 #Snoris

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 whoa congratulations. Great work. 
 Collaborations are good, allow more than the sum of the parts, great! 
 For those stuck, do hard refresh with shift+F5.

On a side note: where can I find latest apk for android? Been freezing a lot, not sure if updates are comming though, would like a reinstall. 
 I had no idea that closing development on your own project was now called "avoidance of duplication work". 
 Epic collab!

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 Just a heads up:

- Snort doesn't work on Librewolf.
- Primal.net does work on Librewolf. 
 https://void.cat/d/J35qXAsnF852sxy1Dd1T7w.webp

Seems to work now? Recently fixed an IndexedDB error that caused it to not work on Tor browser. Maybe it was the same issue with Librewolf. 
 Might be I have to clear a local cache. Will try in the morning. 
 i never heard of librewolf... trying it out, first thing, it takes forever to start because it wants gnome authentication, second thing it doesn't integrate with keepassxc and no way i'm keeping my passwords offsite with bitwarden.

happy to hear better advice, i need to get to my morning swim. 
 after some more research and poking around, yeah, i don't see any credible password manager support for librewolf. brave is still the best though you gotta manually disable a lot of craptoware. 
 Bitwarden works fine in Librewolf. 
 bitwarden is third party, offsite cached. or did I misunderstand the "sign up" page it threw up when I went to start using it? 
 you can self-host extremely easily 
 they don't make that very clear in the website. 
 if you have a yunohost its literally like 3 clicks

otherwise they have very detailed guides
available
even for airgapped machines

bitwarden is good yo
 https://bitwarden.com/help/install-on-premise-linux/
 
 cool, i'll look into how to do that soon, maybe drop a note about what i learned and set up. tis friday night, i'm chillin with system tweakage and music collection massage. 
 their guides make assumptions about wanting multiple devices to connect to it, and complex server setups.

what if i just want to have one device with one browser????

i'm sticking with keepassxc for now, it's working great. librewolf doesn't play nice with it so i'm not moving off brave any time soon. 
 sure then its overkill

lot of us have multiple devices for different threat models
having one password manager that automatically syncs between all of them is pretty useful

its takes 20 minutes to set up on a VPS.
in that case, you win out over brain drain vs keypass because you dont have to manually sync databses files

even still, for most folks
trusting bitwarden with your encrypted passwords isnt a big deal 
 i'm not a diversification cuckoo, i am a hawk, i keep my eggs in one nest and i watch it real close, and put it where it's hard to get at.
 one of the rules of signals intelligence is you don't send out a message unless you want to risk it being decoded. bitwarden breaks that rule. even brave sync breaks it on the metadata side. if my devices were ONLY locating each other and not sharing any other information that would be ok for me, but then how is that any different from me managing my own backups and using the fattest pipe I can - 10gbit USB-C cable. 
 just to be clear, i only need one backup, which is my primary and only pc system volume. there is only one keepassxc database, with only one password, and all of that is securely duplicated onto my backup.

the more links in a chain the more chances one of them can be easily broken.

i write software designed to operate as independent systems interacting with each other, and every time two things are doing the same type of job at the same time, we have a problem that will eventually blow out into a huge hassle.

when i need to do a wipedown, i can get it done and everything gone in under an hour. good luck chasing all your stray bits and pieces when you gotta move fast. 
 OK

someone breaking AES-256 encryption is not in my threat model.
and i also can and do have a secure offline backup that can be restored anytime. it doesn't require chasing down stray bits.

but its a difference in design philosophy and I respect your approach. 
 i'm not so stupid as to think that AES-256, which isn't even a protocol actually, it's a collection of them, and the difference that matters, can be broken.

it's always side channels and handshakes and this sort of thing.

i don't know how my brave sync got breached but a device appeared on the list that i definitely did not put there. so i presume it was the browser itself was penetrated, and specifically the access to the memory where that key is stored.

i think you are way too trusting, and let's just leave it at that.

anyone who pins their security on a web browser is on the road to trouble. 
 there is no simple self hosted server setup script in the AUR and this is the desktop app's first screen. nor is there any simple guide to using this like it was just a simple app like keepassxc.

idk why y'all are so in love with it, it's not made for anyone who's spending more time building than setting up servers on VPSs. cognitive load is expensive when your use of your brain has much higher value elsewhere.

third party hosting. no thanks.
https://image.nostr.build/0d2fba32fe15d9875c9ea843282418cad436d2d447a410e29ef0a6196acf6095.jpg 
 Yes, and I will not switch to another browser.

So I use: https://next.nostrudel.ninja/#/

It just works. 
 fantastic news ! i love both  
 The last time Martti decided to collaborate on a project.  They made bitcoin.  Bitcoin's first developer is still with us.

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 I prefer the old Iris.. 
 YES, LFG GUYS! 🚀 
 😂 snort & iris copied bluesky 
 We need more of this! I hope this isn't one dev giving up but two devs joining forces. 
 1,000 devs will be using a the same popular nostr client codebase someday 
 the power of open source 
 when Quote Boost? 
 I'm not familiar how those boosts work but can't you boost this post? Is it necessarily the post author who has to go pay people to share their stuff? 
 I mean a Retweet that you add a comment to. You can't do that on iris. You can only Retweet plainly  
 Like on Snort? On Snort you can copy the tweet's ID and quote it like this:

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Bet that's possible in Iris, too. 
 it'd be nice to have a 1 click quote share. Like on Amethyst
 
 I just bumped the relevant issue: https://git.v0l.io/Kieran/snort/issues/217 
 ah sweet thanks! I'll do the same 
 quote reposts should form replies to the repost

need thread merging too 
 look how amethyst does it 
 Hi @Martti Malmi switched over to #snort for testing... 
 All of Nostr converges 🙌 
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 is there a new github repo? 
 Iris、本当にSnortになってたんだ

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 wow big

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 一応開発は続けていると思われます。
双方の良いところを結集させたいというところみたいです。

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