Oddbean new post about login | logout that anti-pedophilia is unnatural satanism nigger ideology. If this were remotely true, Hollywood wouldn’t be into raping children and neither would the collective kike presence.
@owl. @Christmassy Merry Dude You are conflating good pedophilia(child brides) with an enemy race's perversion of it(child prostitution, trooning children, etc). And yes, anti-pedophilia is satanist, as it implies Joseph sinned upon marrying Saint Mary, who most likely was 14 or younger.
@owl. @c59c8878 Unfortunately for the sake of this argument, he's picked the 12-14 year old age range in particular. The standard arguments against pedophilia tend to hold mainly below that range, and begin to get annoyingly fuzzy in the 12-18 year old range (moreover, Hollywood pedophiles *also* go below that range).
I quite frankly don’t care what his reasoning is. I saw the words “good pedophilia,” that was enough for me.
@owl. @c59c8878 The upshot is that around the age of 14, you can begin to make arguments that the person in question isn't really a child anymore. These arguments hold some water, but there are less obvious points to be made in favor of an age of consent placed around the time of "can independently get a job." Historically that was much earlier, so historically an earlier age of consent makes sense. Today, it really doesn't.
@Christmassy Merry Dude @owl. It makes perfect sense, in fact. What makes zero sense is niggers not being rounded up on the stop and women being able to divorce their husbands.
@c59c8878 @owl. Having the age of consent overlap with the period of time that a person is fully dependent on their parents opens the child up for quite a few abuses. In particular, the parents may force their child into prostitution at such an age. Naturally, because the dependent is fully dependent, they will have no real say in the matter - the parents will simply argue that the dependent child is having consensual sex even if they are obviously not, and the child will be forced into agreeing for the sake of having a meal. There are sufficiently many abhorrent parents that this will absolutely happen - in large numbers - if we lower the age of consent. In order to prevent this, the age of consent cannot be too low. This is for the protection of the child in question, they need to be able to escape abusive parenting scenarios as safely as possible.
@Christmassy Merry Dude @owl. That only happens under a culture in which men court girls without having to ask for the father's permission. If you normalize proper courtship, then all the extra abuse nonsense goes away. Parents will force children into prostitution regardless of whether child brides are allowed or not. If anything, they already support the degeneracy of OnlyFans. Finally, you are implying both the father and the mother are evil enough to support prostituting their kid. If that's the case, then even without child brides, the kid is already screwed over tbh. Finally, marriages require a judge, so no casual sex. If a little girl is being raped by a bunch of men, then it would require tremendous secrecy and a absolutely immoral community.
@c59c8878 @owl. >Finally, you are implying both the father and the mother are evil enough to support prostituting their kid. If that's the case, then even without child brides, the kid is already screwed over tbh. We live in a society where such happens quite often. Many of our children *are* figuratively screwed. That does not mean we should allow them to get *literally* screwed. >If a little girl is being raped by a bunch of men, then it would require tremendous secrecy and a absolutely immoral community. Most of the West meet both of those conditions.
@owl. @Christmassy Merry Dude You could not make an argument to defend yourself outside of secularist feminism, though. Do you also believe women should have the right to vote?
I don’t make arguments in favor of feminist ideology in the first place.
@owl. @Christmassy Merry Dude Feminist ideology is what spread age of consent above 12 throughout the west.
It has nothing to do with ideology, this is just my moral outlook in the matter. It seems every time this discussion gets brought up some information is magically unearthed and the age somehow gets lower and lower.
@owl. @Christmassy Merry Dude I personally don't care if it's removed entirely, if you want me to be consistent, but as far as a necessity? between 12 to 14. Earlier than that the biggest issue I can think of is pregnancies, which I'd not recommend. Otherwise, just standard child marriages as seen in Sneedville.
I think you’re just racist, frankly.
@owl. @Christmassy Merry Dude TND is indeed a lot more important than teenage brides! Any nigger who laws a hand upon an White child will be fed to crocodiles.
The idea people married super young is itself a Hollywood myth (just like the gayification of Rome/Athens; Pederasty was a form of nobles mentoring youth before the era of formal education and philosophers from Aristotle to Pythagoras, condemned nobles who abused their positions with young boys; sources in this video: https://odysee.com/@LeatherApronClub:c/black_bars_gay_greeks:e ) There were cases of people like Edgar Allen Poe and others who married very young girls, but this was not the norm. Most cultured married 16~20 going back centuries. Hollywood movies like Pretty Baby try to make this into the norm, but even the story of Mohamed is an outlier in its own time period.
@djsumdog Pederasty was indeed seen as disgusting by most Greek, but pederasty is not pedophilia. Do not conflate. Further, Romans did have zero issue with 12 yo getting married.
You do realize the Roman Empire had no problems with rape and infanticide, right? They also had different laws for citizens, non-citizens and slaves and did not view human beings as equals until the era of Constantine when he stopped persecution of the Christians. You also realize the Roman fell apart and failed, right?!
Pederasty was indeed seen as disgusting by most Greek, No it wasn’t. Pederasty was mentorship and didn’t have a sexual component. That’s modern Hollywood bullshit. Sexual abuse of children (if they were citizens or not slaves) was condemned. but pederasty is not pedophilia. DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I JUST FUCKING SAID?!