I love how you repeatedly said "connecting to relays you didn't configure".  While this is very true in gossip, this is what designers and client devs have deemed an EXTREME advanced use case for nostr.  They have designed their apps to have ZERO initial config and 97% of nostr probably doesn't configure their relays.  They simply don't even know relays exist.  I blame un-education, engagement driven design for this more than the users.  Gossip is not this, it 100% requires learning and this is what I wish more clients did.

So anyway, my point is, they never fucking configured relays in the first place so fear mongering them over connecting to relays is even worse than pointless, it simply drives them back to X.  🐑🐑🐑

It's ok tho, future generations will know VPNs like the back of their hand, as their survival will depend on it.  They'll be installing wireguard on their nanny cam before they can even talk 🦜 

 And to add to this, these same designers should absolutely be jizzing in their pants over gossip/outbox protocol because it's that much closer to zero config like they always wanted.  Just add one relay, gossip the rest.  Aw yea. 🦜 

 You could even tell people to follow other people at their own domain, like follow "mike@mikedilger.com" and it would get my NIP-05, find my relays, and gossip away. Works without even NIP-65 relay lists for discovery, no npubs required, no user interaction with relay setup required. Seriously easy 1-step 1-click experience.  The only thing people MUST do is to sign up for at least one relay that serves their stuff. 

 That would be such a great way to invite people to nostr 

 I got your DM about still not getting my DMs.  We can debug it tomorrow.  Maybe gossip isn't AUTHing to your DM relay, or if it doesn't need that maybe it is doing something else dumb.  I found a handful of dumb bugs today I'm sure there will be more bugs tomorrow. 

 Nice! Ya all good, I'm also trying to make sure bugs being squashed or even found on the relay too 🦜 

 Bro, we did what?! What did you say about designers?!

No really, I don’t understand what you’re saying here. 

People are not going to learn about relays on signup … it’s why mastodon never took off because people didn’t know which server to join 

 And I'm saying they ARE going to learn. 😎 

 You can and should learn but it’s not something you want to deal with when signing up. You can, but you’re going to have people either totally confused or just skip that step by clicking anywhere that’s clickable. 

 Well it kinda doesn't matter because gossip/outbox makes it easier to configure, with a lot less learning if we just quit fear mongering about it. 

 I’m sold on it. Mike makes a good point. 

 Agree. 
Keys & Relays (and Blossom servers for that matter) should be front & center.
Most of the other things are distractions, take up valuable onboarding time and confuse users more than they help them. 
(NIP-05, PIN code, lightning address, following individual suggested users, ...)