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 This is such a win for Moscow. I thought Bitcoiners were all about seeing 2nd and 3rd effects and not just believe what you get served.  Especiallly when it comes to Putin. He is a cumpulsive liar. If you don't think many people found it compelling to listen to Hitler in 1939, you better check yourself before you wreck youself 
 I think bitcoiners just usual people. Not better not worse 
 Definately. But my perception is that many regard themselves as smart critical thinkers and ''everyone'' who doesnt get bitcoin as ignorant and or close minded. I don't know, just didn't think 'opting out' included lessons from the past 
 totally agree. i'm trying to say that sometimes here. like try to be humble. dividing people into us and them is not helpfull.  I also don't like attitude like "bitcoin solves everything". no its not. 
 They all lie. This is known. I agree Putin is trying to manipulate the people of the West. I also believe the leaders of the West are trying to manipulate the people of the West. All *governors* make themselves obsolete through their inability to rise above their own self-interest. They eventually go one psyop too far. The US blew theirs on COVID and people are waking up, gradually then suddenly. 
 Agreed. Just make sure you remember that one is a democracy and one is a mafia dictatorship. Democracy is by no means perfect. Absolutely not. It never will be, just like you and I and every other citizen. But as Winston Churchill put it, it is the best we have. The West may have much that needs fixing, we just need to make sure we don't brake more than we fix in the process. Anyway, the way towards a better society is definatelly not giving Putin more influence 
 I think democracy has left. It has been replaced with political theater, and next comes politcal repression. In the US, the legislature is derelict in its duties, the courts are growing polarized, and the administrative state gobbles all responsbilities as the elected class seek high time preference solutions in support of reelection over reason. 
 Also, given that you live in the west, you probably have more opportunities, acccess to informatian and freedom of speech than 99,9% of the people that lived before you. Never forget that