Well said. I'm not at all a fan of the idea of not being able to delete or edit a comment. The argument of a "more honest internet" is a cope. Yes, both features can be misused but privacy is a human right. While it's true that you can't truly, fully delete things online (and, of course, the technical challenges of throwing a decentralized platform into the mix), that doesn't mean users shouldn't have full control over their online presence as far as the technology permits.

I mean, every one of us has said things online that we would like to forget, and definitely wouldn't want associated with our modern persona. It's not like we're all born with the knowledge of privacy and the permanence of the internet, especially those of us who grew up with the internet. How is it fair that we would all have to potentially pay the price of our past internet idiocy just so we can have a "more honest internet"? It's just a stupid concept. It's like saying, "privacy is dead so let's just give every bit of info to everyone who wants it". That whole argument is a total joke and it doesn't hold up to logic.

See, this is exactly what bugs me about the maxi mentality against privacy coins like Monero. Yes, I love Bitcoin but that doesn't mean I don't take issue with some of its concepts. The immutable, public ledger is a privacy issue; just because it's pseudonymous, that doesn't mean I'm okay with people knowing every transaction I make if they are able to attach a real-world identity to my wallet address(es).

At the end of the day, you cannot have self-sovereignty without privacy. 

 > The argument of a "more honest internet" is a cope.

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 I agree that people who say "more honest internet" are usually trying to make a virtue of necessity; but its not entirely untrue.

Re-writing one's posts to make replies look off-target / ridiculous was a common enough forum tactic in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Forums would often set posts immutable after a few minutes to limit this.

On balance I think clients and relays should honour deletion requests, but self-doxxing and foot-gunning will remain major risks whatever we do. 

"The bad people" can easily store everyone / everything of interest to them and ignore deletion requests. 

 Clients like forums can put a comment 'this reply was made before the original post was edited'  so not really an issue. 

 Which Nostr clients do that, again? Its not really an issue once they all do 

 None as far as I know.  But I see no reason this couldn't be implemented once we have edit/deletes using timestamps. 

 The delete removes things from relays, so while clients need to trigger the delete request, it’s the relay that honors it.

You can use nos.social to delete content, but you can also just use this web app: https://nostr-delete.vercel.app/ 

 #Amethyst supports editing of posts/comments... But not all clients support it.  

 Yep, I currently use Amethyst but I'm not sure if I'll stick with it. I like it but I'm not keen on how it seems to hide certain posts for "blocked words". 

 Personally it has saved me from 99% (wild guess) spam and I'm able to define new words to block automatically so I like it. 

But I agree with you that there may be valid content that might have been hidden from me without my knowledge 😱 

 You are absolutely correct here.   Its weird that there are fans of Nostr that don't support maximum privacy and anonymity.  In a world where freedom of speech is no longer easy, safe or legal moving to Nostr without privacy safe guards becomes much  less worthwhile for many.