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 I tuned out of Matt's show when it became all about LN and nostr development.

I'll take a look, thanks. 
 Yeah, I don't have long historical reference for the show. I've just been tuning to a few episodes with attempts to try and understand different aspects and get a better whole systems view of this world, which small exposures to topics like the one I referenced help with.  
 Its a good show. I suggest going back and listening to some of the early episodes.

Back when Matt was still young and innocent lol