It's hard to argue with that, not least because there are so many definitions of the term decentralised. 

For example #Bisq is the only truly decentralised t trading exchange around, but many people think #umiswap as qualifies. 

That's one of the weird things about #defi. Even the terminology is crowdsourced :)  

 Not only Bisq, you have Haveno-reto for Monero, that is a Bisq fork 👌 

 I didn't know that one. I might look at that. I wonder if it's in my #distro?  

 I'll have to look into that. There's no readymade for #Manjaro so I'd have to compile it, assuming they make the source code available and it's up to date.  

 I think it doesnt run in arch based distros, at least in arch linux it doesn't run, but it runs in debian based distros. 

You can find more infos here: https://haveno.exchange/ 

 I might have a look in the AUR tomorrow. It is possible to install deb packages on arch with debtap, but I always seemed to get that wrong so I'll see if someone has done it for me :)  

 You probably don't need to install the deb package. You can do similar as you can with bisq by extracting out the contents of the deb package and running the haveno binary. If fails to run due to any dependencies required, install using normal way 

 It's also really interesting in another respect. 

I remember when #Bitcoin advocates used to say the test was if it was independent of the markets. 

As time has gone on, that has become less true if #btc and more true of #Monero 

#xmr didn't follow the crash and it isn't following the run now. It's standing alone.  

 That's true 👌 

 we are #btc and #xmr ❤️