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Joel | 4 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 That's not a bad thing. First of all, the fact that a nostr post might have a reply that you don't know about, or that the reply you send might never be seen by the poster, or that a post might have more likes than you can see, or fewer, or that you can't ever really know how many followers you have—all these things are seen by normal people as a ridiculous step backwards (what kind of bullshit social media works like that?). And one for which no censorship resilience can make up for. Total deal breakers. One big-ass relay fixes that. Also that article makes it seem like only fortune 500 corporations can spin up that big-ass relay, which is nonsense.
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mleku | 4 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 yeah, the problem is, just like blockchains with their terabytes of chain data (eg ethereum, steem, etc) that the entire proposition of it being decentralised REQUIRES that you don't make the cost of running a replica of the database beyond AT LEAST middle class budgets, if such a thing even exists anymore

hence most shitcoin nodes are giant fucking 128 core EPYC racks that burn 10kW of power and have half a terabyte of memory and RAID5 with 32 parallel NVMe drives that cost in the order of $250k

and if you actually do the analysis on the data that people want to see in their feeds... about 1% of users content needs to be delivered everywhere, and the rest can be sharded or cached on demand on much smaller nodes

there hasn't been much work on actually making this work for nostr, i personally have been doing some work to make shared large data stores possible, and i have visions of in the future adding the ability to fan out the data store to networks of Blossom nodes so relays only keep the events their users are using and prune off old stuff and when old stuff or stuff not yet known is requested, the requests can cascade until the index is found and returned and cached and the relay itself becomes a node in a bigger cluster that can dynamically deliver content without any hand holding or fancy consensus logic

censorship resistance doesn't matter... until you get censored

and that means you are a content creator, the actual source of value of the network, even if you aren't popular

i literally can't even make one post on any other social media these days because they already have profiled me and i'm pre-censored, have been for over a decade

so, fine for you, mister audience member, but you wouldn't even see my work if it wasn't for nostr's censorship resistance, so, yeah, this entire conversation right now depends on this, so how's them apples?
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Joel | 3 days ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Well yeah, but on the other hand nostr's current censorship resistance, in my opinion, is due in very large part to it being off the radar, small—and not the architecture. I get the whack-a-mole argument, but I feel people are greatly exaggerating the difficulty of playing whack-a-mole in this day and age. Any government, sufficiently motivated and resourced, could make it the protocol so painful to make practical use of that, while it would still hobble along for the die-hards, the nostr vision as it stands now would be dead. (In other words it'd be a heck of a lot easier to cripple nostr than people are assuming.)  Rather than censorship resistance I see the real value of nostr being in portability, though for very specific use cases that are not affected by nostr's limitations.