Oddbean

>tell me , what do western women offer men these days besides pussy ? which they can get , without all the baggage , for a song and a phone call ... This is what made me call you hedonistic, as I assume it was a flowery way to put "fucking a whore". Please correct me if I am incorrect. >a marriage is more a business relationship for the rearing of healthy societies and children , as opposed to a "female companionship" sentimentalist rag , whatever the hell that emasculated stuff is ... This is again, very myopic and sad, you've lost the romantic fire of the Western Man and it shows. Everything is coded down to an exchange of goods and services. She is a hole and you are a pipe simply to exchange thrusts in a purely business relationship. You are not her shield and strength and she your pillow and respite. You are just as emasculated as the women you claim to be de-feminized. Shit sucks and there are women who will gut you for your money and run, and it fucking blows. But your remedy to chase easy pussy is just switching which table at the casino you're playing at, instead of gambling your money, your gambling your health, and that turns into your money going away all the same.

men dont need women for completion bro... its the other way around ... men can live ascetic lives pursuing reverence for god , or lives of adventure and exploration ... women are completed by men . men are completed by god. you got a flesh worship problem

I mean, yeah, some men can, and thats great. But if every man did that, we'd be dead in a generation. Basically the same logic as ultrafeminists. If men can muster the determination and force of will to lead a more solitary life in reverence to God or the arts or science or whatever passion might guide them, great! But of that 45% of men ages 18-25 who are not approaching women, I doubt many of them are pursuing that form of dedication and would in fact like a woman to call their own.

oh i wasnt aware this was a sentimental save the masses from themselves conversation - i thought it was about gaining a cool and detached understanding regarding why young men arent approaching women...

Before we continue, I want to ask, is English not your first language? I think there might be a bit of a language barrier (really language usage barrier). Im asking cause the way you format your posts is very strange and your word choice is strange. If English is your first language, are you 50+ years old, as Ive noticed the same behavior in people that age on these types of spaces on the internet. I would just like to know before we continue.

lol english first language yo... under 50 my peeps... though its alright ... we dont need to go on and on... we both probably said enough - any continuing misunderstanding isnt likely to be resolved in this fashion... the common ground is that we are both concerned for the kids... i would agree that simply not approaching at all and locking oneself away is not a good method for these young guys - but many were raised in broken homes, often by women alone, so assertive self-assuredness lesson might have been lacking... this is another indication of the emasculated society we live in. for myself, I simply have put limits on the women i will consider for long term commitments and family-building... they will mostly hold unless the person is exceptional and wants to expend energy to prove otherwise... this is a general rule I apply to western women... there are a lot more women than western out there so dont worry for me bro-man...

I mean yeah we do basically agree and its good to have standards. Only thing different is that I would say dont go after non-white women, itll lead to similar if not worse issues than those you outlined about being raised in a single mother household. Snag a Slav or something maybe idk lol