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 They are just being naive when it comes to Russia. I guess it’s a natural human thing. People just before WW1 or two didn’t exactly think it’d unfold the way it did.

I mean, it’s not like I don’t understand the sentiment. I do. I think that wanting to get out of NATO, not getting involved in any wars not on their soil, and leaving Europe to its own devices, is a coherent position to have.

But then, don’t pretend it has anything to do with pacifism, freedom, or striving for a better world. Because it’ll be a world where the last islands of freedom are increasingly puppeteered by authoritarian regimes. 
 I like the idea when a invading force (cough cough russia) arrives to an armed community. There is no army to fight with. But they're gonna be hit from every window and corner. on every occasion.

Unfortunatly, there is only a couple of countries in europe where you own means of protection. I'm glad CZ is.

(btw. I want a tank. and a helicopter!) 
 Yeah.. I find that a bit naive, sorry! I think what this war has demonstrated is that what matters is the ability to strike the enemy supply lines, as well as concentration points deep behind enemy lines. So rocket propelled artillery, and such. Further, on the frontline it’s really about drones, electronic warfare, and armored vehicles.

Everyone having a weapon will just make everyone a legitimate target first, and an immediate subject of torture in any areas captured by the enemy.

Really, the only role you want to be in if you find yourself in the combat zone is to be a combatant. 
 Depends on what the ivasion goal is. true. Let's say there is no resistance at all. and then we use everything we have later. Until they sieze it.

Yes, we will be called terrorists. we were in the past under 3rd reich. 
 *not until, but before 
 The whole situation is very very sad.
As someone who has first hand experience with Russia and it's imperialism we simply all have totally different views.
I can totally understand that someone behind the ocean doesn't want to pay for this war or even actively fight it.
But as you said to believe Russian propaganda is just very very naive.

There is no good choice in this, there never was, it is fucking war! There will be always people killed and lives ruined. But I think we as "the west" have chosen the worst option of them all. We either should support UA much more strongly from the start and push Putin diplomatically etc. or we should let him swallow UA without fight and prepare for next war. We have chosen something in the middle which means people are dying in endless war and yet at the end it may happen Russia will emerge victorious and looking for other target & we here in Europe will not be ready.