Oddbean

I 🤍 how every reply is about a different example that I gave! Wonderful diversity here on nostr. I'll just point you to a guy on YouTube who has videos that will do a quick pass over the medical evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xTaAHSFHUU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VwDZVbfrKo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8tzaXQH1G4 The major counter argument is that seeds themselves do not want to be eaten. Evolution would make them toxic. Whereas fruits were designed to be eaten in order to spread the seeds. But just because a plant doesn't want you to chew and eat it's seeds doesn't mean seeds are toxic. Carrots don't want to be eaten, neither does lettuce, nor celery, and those things are not toxic. So the counter argument is just a hint at a hypothesis. Is the medical evidence wrong or misleading? Maybe. This is why I still hold it in superposition. But I'm going to lean towards the research for now.

this will probably be a thread. first thing i noticed is after he says " i don't get paid by seed oil industry " ( first video starting at 56 sec ) his voice shakes, because he's lying. he is a doctor so his entire medical industry is financed by whatever food is predominant on supermarket shelves - which is seed oils. at 9:15 first video this idiot admits that you can test if the person actually took the seed oil on the trial by measuring fatty acids in their blood, yet he still claims eating seed oil has no effect on your body. at 10:03 first video his voice again shakes when he says PUFA is "anti" inflammatory, because he is lying. i'm going to stop watching here. he's just showing results of trials. any trial can be rigged to produce any result the industry pays to get. it is irrelevant. empirical ( studies ) is one way to look at a problem - mechanistic is another. mechanistic is when you ask HOW DOES THE THING WORK ( as opposed to what effects can we measure ) and mechanistically plant based Omega-3 is not active form and only 5% of it converts to active animal for Omega 3 found in Fish and Grass Fed Beef. so seed oil AT BEST is empty calories and at worst Toxic Omega 6 bomb. there is no universe in which a sane person would want to consume that trash.

i was going to watch the other videos but realized they are all by the same person. that is not exactly scientific Mike. you can't get all your opinions from 1 source and then preach about superposition of ideas :)

the other point i want to make is those people in trials were asked to take 1 spoon of seed oil ... but their diet ALREADY contains several spoons of seed oil at baseline ! if you have "control" on 5 spoons of seed oil and test group at 6 spoons ( which is more or less what they had ) you can dial in the slightest changes in the study elsewhere to compensate and over-compensate any minor effects this extra spoon would have ... a proper study would ask what will happen if all plant oils are eliminated from the diet versus control group that eats their normal junk diet. of course you can't just get people to stop eating junk and you would need to run the study for at least 6 months because that's how long it takes to flush out the fatty acids out of the adipose tissue where they are long-term stored...

i used to follow ( and even once went to gym with ) a dude with PHD in biochemistry or something called Chris Masterjohn who had a podcast where he tore these studies apart. there are some egregious things that take place in those studies - like having one group in a smoking building and another in a non-smoking building and then pretending like this has no effect of heart health and just focusing on difference in diet etc.

The importance is the argumentation of the people you follow. I rather get my information from a person that bases his thesis very organized with evidence, than having 5 who only reference some suspicious habits to try to proov a lie. Amateur gesture reader, that has no objective bases. Sorry but I can not take you serious.