Oddbean new post about | logout
 Yes, it is almost like whoever comes to power, more war and Raytheon's profits are guaranteed.

It is weird when those who want Ukrainian independence and freedom find it perfectly acceptable for the US to go in and violently overthrow the elected president, which led to a civil war.

Then much more recently, when Ukraine and Russia reached a peace agreement, those same 'supporters of independence' objected and pushed Ukraine towards more war.

The road to independence is to do as we tell you... 
 If you mean "istanbul agreements" in this agreement russia wanted ukraine to surrender and for example have limited troops, like one houndred thousands. so, that wasn't "agreements" and no one forced ukraine to continue war. 
this is very strange logic, russia invaded ukraine, ukraine wanted to defend but you blaming ukraine and someone to have the right to defend themselves. why don't you just say russia should get out of ukraine and that's it, no war. 
 And you conveniently forget the history of this. 1990 "NATO not one inch east"- James Baker, 2 Minsk peace treaties ignored by the west "we just used Minsk to buy time to arm Ukraine"- Merkel and Holland's admitting this, a coup by the west in Ukraine in 2014(no democracy), suspension of Ukraine voting and time limit on the presidency. 

You get the pattern ? 
 - Is Ukraine a member of NATO?
-  "we just used Minsk to buy time to arm Ukraine" - why then after two month of invasion Ukraine run out of artillery shells and why Ukraine still need weapons?
- "coup by the west in Ukraine in 2014" - If it was coup by the west - what was the reason for that?
 
 What happened in my country in 2014 was a grassroots revolution which overthrew a dictator in the making, "peace agreement" was nothing but demands of surrender and conflict freezing until russia regroups.

You fucking liar! You fucking idiot! Fuck you! Go to hell!