Oddbean new post about login | logout Honest question, why aren’t all bitcoiners who use social media on nostr? I’m not saying nostr only just even coming on once a day or something.
Maxis are stubborn
Those who never emerged from the cave and are only here for the clout or the money remain on Twitter. Unfortunately there are many of those in this space. The good news is that you only need a smalls segment to drive a revolution.
It’s possible that they feel the need to engage with non Bitcoiners to try to get the Orange Pill messege through to them. But sadly the more likely answer is they aren’t as hard core as we may perceive them as.
“But a fight is what they most enjoy; for it is while they are fighting that their blood chemistry makes them feel most intensely themselves.” The Twitter outrage machine is addictive. https://image.nostr.build/7834d50b231cee9e0cfb518a5a2092006973510c97c60aa8814634cd85d65a10.jpg
Most plebs are on Nostr and some high profiles, but many of the bitcoin big accounts still think nostr is small and they get no engagement, on Nostr you don't have an algo pumping your account, so here they are just like any other pleb, and feel they don't have the same reach to their audience/followers.
This. Egos need to be left at the door here.
Because Nostr is different
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That’s funny I’ve found the opposite. I have a lot of followers on Twitter, but generally always had low engagement. It always seemed those “pumping algorithms” were doing the opposite (I may have been having fall out from my unapproved vaccine facts and related comments). I even did a comparison almost a year ago where I did a series of the exact same post here and on Twitter at the same time, and there was almost always more engagement on #Nostr Nostr right now only has like 50k active daily users or something I think. Yet the difference is pretty stark. The only exceptions are when something catches momentum like my Guy’s 2 Sats videos sometimes do. They do really well on Twitter generally. Funny though, #Nostr is the only one that brings in a bunch of sats for those posts. Can very easily get 20-50k sats from a solid video. Which is way better than the nothing at all that I get from KYC Twitter.💩
That's because your content is actually high quality and Dan Held's isn't... He needs the performance enhancement of the algos.
lol, Dan Held. Forgot about that guy. Haven’t seen him in ages. Maybe I muted him at some point and forgot.
It is possible to understand that bitcoin is the best money but not be a part of the cause of taking money away from the government to reduce government size and power. How many people have you seen make pro government bitcoin adoption posts? Some of us are trying to overthrow the government and getting rich along the way by accident. Some of us are trying to get rich and overthrowing the government along the way by accident. You'll find the people you ask about are in the second group.
The dichotomy is between honesty and dishonesty. Everyone is in this for the money. "Overthrowing the government" 👀 with #Bitcoin is a joke.
If you believe that you don't understand just how much power the government gets from having an endless supply of free money.
I know, but sadly we are not changing any of that with Bitcoin, we are at their mercy. https://imdb.com/title/tt9257616/
Yeah I don’t get it. If you actually care about censorship resistance, free speech and the rest, why aren’t you even *trying* to use the tech that literally gives you those things.
Twitter is more hawk tuah for influencers than nostr 😁
Clout maxis. They don’t get enough attention here.
You’re confusing Bitcoiners with Orange Pillers
BINO? (Bitcoiners in name only)?
Network Effects, Adoption takes time
use mostr as the fedi is already big
All I know, once I changed my pattern and made the switch, #Nostr became more addictive because it based in reality
People are slow to change. They will come
Twitter is much easier to use and uses far less data on my phone than Nostr. the pro for Nostr is that people actually respond and I feel like I get answers and ideas from people I would have no other way to connect with. this is a huge pro that may not be priced into Nostr stock price
There are some solid reasons given in answer to your question here in the replies and I agree with many of them. I'll add mine: People have been conditioned to go through a lengthy onboarding process which gathers up tons of personal data. I think this process fools people into believing there is some level of "credibility" involved when there isn't. It's just a personal information vaccuum. Contrast with nostr onboarding which is done in a fraction of the time (spinning up a Nsec/Npub pair) and I can see how conditioned people could be fooled into believing that "it's not safe" of something or another. Then, as has been said here, they actually have to deliver quality content to get eyeballs and when they discover that that is difficult (maybe they did at one point on Twitter but then began to rely solely on the algos) they just go back to what's easier. Water always takes the path of least resistance. Delivering quality content is so difficult. I'm getting somewhat better but that battle will be a forever battle.
Because they have a substantial Elon bot following and are addicted to the blue check.
i've been having the same question
They’re late comers. Instead of struggling early, they’d rather have it all made and “perfect” for them. We here have the early Bitcoiner energy
Because most self proclaimed bitcoiners are statist cucks or clout chasers.
Lol because they had a bad experience with some of the early clients or they love the dopamine hits of shouting at shitcoiners and punching down
Inertia. Lot's of them complains about their corporate owned social networks but put zero real effort to rebuild their social graphs on something else they currently uses.
Many people who've tried it found it didn't work properly - that might be getting better now for people trying it now, I'm not sure. Aside from the shit actually working, you then need algorithms that help get people started with finding engaging posts and getting engagement on their own posts. None of the nostr apps seem great at this yet. Some apps like iris, satellite, and primal are starting to get good at curating feeds but helping beginners get engagement is still not up to par with centralized bullshit like Bluesky (where one of the most popular feeds just contains all first-time posts by new users, less effective on nostr where anyone can make a throwaway npub)
