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 I want to use nostr more but it feels like I am shouting into the void, probably a skill issue 
 keep posting 
 It’s cos theres no native content discovery mechanism on nostr like there is with the Twitter recommendation algo. Centralisation of some things could improve UX quite a bit 
 Just keep posting like I do  
 Might help to appreciate that Bitcoiners in 2009-2012 probably felt something similar and that early Nostr adopters, like early Bitcoiners are accumulating real and unconfiscatible capital, social this time round. 
 I hear you loud and clear!🤙🏼 
 Turn on your zaps. You are not getting feedback from zappers. 
 I second this.  
 100% this - nostr:nprofile1qqsrmhh22fcqncju3rf5yyhhex4rvdz0hm4a9d56qnh80l7rcrhhxugpr9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezuun4vf3x2unydakxctnrvvqs6amnwvaz7tmwdaejumr0dsq3yamnwvaz7tmsw4e8qmr9wpskwtn9wv4tz7j4 you're sharing good content, let people say thanks, get a Ln address up there - also you'd reach more people using hashtags imo.  
 Alright, this is my dilemma too. But I don't want to figure anything out. I'm lazy and I like me that way. Is there a simple way to get an address? I get hung up on the part where I have to read stuff. 
 If you are not in the USA, the easiest and cheapest is wallet of Satoshi.

Add your LN address (looks like an email address) to your profile.

**Disclaimer** Wallet of Satoshi is a custodial wallet so don't leave any amount you care about in it because it can be taken by them at any time. 
 I'm in the US. But thanks! Might be handy to know sometime 
 #asknostr what lightning wallet is best for a zap wallet for people in USA? 
 Minibits.cash works. 
 I had self custodial zaps set up, LN channels were closed on me and haven’t found a good peer to set up again with. Any suggestions? 
 Thanks Matt, done 
 Just tried zapping and I got an error message that it couldn't find the address at the location given - pain in the ass, but that's one of the few occasional faults I see happening on nostr still  
 That's annoying, I have had other people successfully zapping. What app are you using? 
 I had self custodial zaps set up, LN channels were closed on me and haven’t found a good peer to set up again with. Any suggestions? 
 Do you get less traction here than on the slave app? 
 Yeah, notably. Often I don’t know if my posts were actually successfully broadcast on nostr 
 Don’t “want to use it more” but just “use it more” generally helps.

#grownostr 
 Use #asknostr if you have questions. Ppl are good at responding if they know the answer 🫡 
 Also respond to other ppls notes and add to the conversation. 
 oh? I felt this a month ago. What the tribe here on #nostr shared is to engage with other people's notes that attracts you. This is how you find people. Yes, it will take a lil adjustment because depending on the clients, u r the algorithm so u need to make an effort to find contents that piqued your interests! We are excited to have you around!  
 We’re here. 
 I feel like organic growth at the start is preferred anyhow 
 #foodstr join the foodies at this hashtag, we are all posting our favorite dishes or travel adventures finds 
 ohhh I wanna join! Big cook here, tell me more please 
 nostr:nprofile1qqsrrxknu7gxxnd7smc5mwwzn9djdm3uvg5tu40cn3x8l656esqa2zsprpmhxue69uhkummnw3ezuendwsh8w6t69e3xj73024zler has a recipe database / Nostr app at zap.cooking .. if you post your recipes there it will be automatically added to your Nostr profile. It's a great way to build your recipe collection.

I uploaded a basic hollandaise sauce recipe yesterday if you want to look at an example. Search hollandaise in the zap cooking search bar, you might see it on the front page as well. 

Then add the hashtag #foodstr and #zapcooking to any food photos or tips or ideas you note about! 

We would love to see your food creations! What's your favorite thing to make?  
 ohhh I am on THE WAY hahaha. Sound fab, definitely checking your food out! I love to cook Jamaican and Asian inspired dishes but I cook everything. I like great food. Co authoring a second cookbook this winter. How about you? What do you cook?? 
 Aw yes, Jamaican and Asian! Let's go! I look forward to this!!! You wrote a cookbook and have another one coming, that is super cool!! I would love to talk more with you about this!!! Maybe interview you for Zap Cooking?

I am a food lover, I am more of a gatherer of recipes, I am an okay cook, I do a lot of basic stuff, or easy recipes for lazy people. I have worked around the restaurant industry for many years, and I think it is fascinating.  
 Whoo hoo! So excited to have found you! Yes I did and yep the new one drops next year and will be available as a hardback and digital on Amazon. Of course, we can talk more. DM. Ooh an interview on Zap Cooking sound fab, I'm in! 

Basic, simple food is the best! My mum has been a pro chef over 40 years so I totally get the keeping it simple when en casa. Look forward to talking more with you and seeing your recipe library 😀  
 That is fantastic! I just sent you a DM, see if you received it. 

Yes! I am probably going to be picking your brain for ideas!!! 
 Got it and sure, I love a good brainstorming sess! 
 Following more people will help. There is no algorithm pushing fake engagement 
 Hidey Ho 
 Post really strong opinions on the value of likes, then throw in a theory on how to make deletes work at scale (it doesn’t need to be viable, just say it) 
 More an engagement issue.
Do you like, zap, comment on others’ posts a lot?
Also it can be useful to use hashtags.
Notice you only follow 264 people, would be a good idea to vastly increase that, then can mute/unfollow later if you are annoyed or bored by some accounts.

It’s like real life here, moment to moment. Engagement happens when you’re actively engaging, like when you go out and visit people.
If you stay home and are quiet, there’s little to no engagement.

Hope that helps! Followed you, look forward to engaging :) 
 Thanks Keysa, content is definitely more ephemeral on nostr (using primal as my client) than on other platforms. It feels like either you get engagement immediately or nothing at all.    
 I see you! 
 I think that’s the experience 
 hello from the void 
 first things first: get a lightning address 
 I had self custodial zaps set up, LN channels were closed on me and haven’t found a good peer to set up again with. Any suggestions? 
 @Coinos or @MinibitsCash are my current top recommendations. You get a lightning address and they handle all the backend work. They are custodial, but you can easily move the funds to a wallet or address you control. There are trade off for everything. 
 Thanks - I want to do it the sovereign way 
 Self sovereign zaps now setup ⚡️ 
 Just keep posting. You got this 
 Nah. You’re just in a small town, and haven’t met many locals yet. 
It gets fun. 👍 
 🐚😱🌊 
 Shouting in the void is a feature and you should embrace it. 
 you got this bro 
 Most people don't use global timeline so it's hard to get discovered  
 I use it 
 Das right 

Some clients don't even have it

 
 That's true too  
 Think it is a void now? Lol you know nothing 
 🤙🔥🚀 
 Get yourself a lightning address and add it to your profile too 
 I had self custodial zaps set up, LN channels were closed on me and haven’t found a good peer to set up again with. Any suggestions? 
 Oof yea channel management is tricky. I've been meaning to try an Alby Hub + phoenixd combo to get around this. I think nostr:nprofile1qqsrxra3gv0lnkxz2pcxh0xuq9k4f9dr7azwq3aypqtnay4w0mjzmtqpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqzrthwden5te0dehhxtnvdakqz8thwden5te0dehhxarj94c82c3wwajkcmr0wfjx2u3wdejhghqs4nu and they have been trying to get folks to help package this for umbrel/start9 etc and Raspiblitz may already have it (cc nostr:nprofile1qqs24sraj5yfee4d7z9ez4k58sdy4dv5ccfsklwtztkpnyqgckqe5tcpyfmhxue69uhk6atvw35hqmr90pjhytngw4eh5mmwv4nhjtnhdaexcep0qyw8wumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytngw4eh5mmwv4nhjtnhdaexcep04cexmf?) 
 Also, what about cashu options like nostr:nprofile1qqstxwlea9ah3u6kjjszu6a7lrnhqkfh8eptp2z6v0e9558tlkkl2rgpzemhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejz7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpremhxue69uhkummnw3ez6ur4vgh8wetvd3hhyer9wghxuet59u4kl3vp? They're not self-custodial, but there's pretty good privacy guarantees for small amounts, and you can sweeping to self-custody once your balance gets to a certain level 
 Run Alby Hub it comes with good default peers/LSPs to get channels with.
Would love to hear your feedback.  
 Alby Hub is not yet on the Raspiblitz, just doing the basic research: https://github.com/raspiblitz/raspiblitz/issues/4727.
Going through the docs it seems the best self-hosted option is to deploy on a VPS with a public IP address readily available: https://github.com/getAlby/hub/tree/master/scripts/linux-x86_64

The other option is using an instance of LNbits with the upcoming NWCprovider extension: https://github.com/riccardobl/nwcprovider
Soon to be in a new LNbits release: https://github.com/lnbits/nostrrelay/issues/13. There can also use phoenixd and Blink @blinkbtc as well as the funding source. 
 Done ⚡️ 
 Done ⚡️ we 
 keep shouting  
 It’s a pretty noisy void on your post 
 can't even zap you man! 
 I had self custodial zaps set up, LN channels were closed on me and haven’t found a good peer to set up again with. Any suggestions? 
 I am using alby just for zaps 
 I now have zaps set up non custodially 
 I tried but said payment failed 
 Look at this 

By the way to the croud - how could i have forwarded the original post to him?

https://m.primal.net/KdSC.png 
 Check out my profile, I have posted a bunch  
 Interesting, as I think, this post made many feedback, isnt it? 

Btw, I saw your post between HODL and Derek Ross. As I am quite new at nostr your post was the first one shown from a lesser followed👍🏻

Do you see improvement? 
 Yep this one blew up. That’s interesting! 
 I would have zapped you, too. Use settings/zaps/WoS for example 
 I had self custodial zaps set up, LN channels were closed on me and haven’t found a good peer to set up again with. Any suggestions? 
 Are you on primal? Amethyst? 
 Primal and Wallet of Satoshi works 
 I now have zaps setup non custodially 
 Maybe just a detour and it will be custodial again 
 Why would I want custodial? 
 My mistake, misses the Word SELF. Sorry for confuison! I ment maybe you find your good peer 
 On Primal 
 I’ll let you shout into my void 
 Think of it like therapy 🫂  
 shouting into the void makes more noise than screaming into a crowd, be patient  
 Use hashtags 
 #based 
 I feel the same, but I know it’s a problem caused by my own behaviour.  

I’m used to lurking, liking, and infrequently commenting.  

I’m still getting my head around ENGAGING, and establishing rapport / relationships.  

It’s not easy changing a deeply embedded mindset that was previously conditioned by X. 
 Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful reply.  
 You’re welcome, have a good one, 🍊 🏄‍♂️ 
 Hello @OrangeSurf this is the void speaking 
 gm 
 Hey from the void in japan! Hear you loud and clear! 
 I came to the void for peace and quiet, please SHUT UP! 
 lol 
 Just don’t worry about engagement. Worry about making your statements. There’s no bots here. https://image.nostr.build/8f1a0e4460015d3680d69ecd27fff8f9441acdf67e4f2114e1e4ae5eae9dde43.jpg  
 I don't care about huge engagement, just some to know that it's worth posting haha 
 isnt that what it felt like when you first got on Twitter? 
 I've been posting on and off on nostr for quite some time and have 500 followers, many of whom like the content I post on X but not the same content when posted here. 

I think it's the lack of algorithms which means you either see content which already has lots of views (if sorting by popular) or content which has just been posted (if sorting by recent posts).  
 This is a "yes and..." type situation  
 What’s that? 😅 
 it's a yes lack of algorithms hurt AND there are other ways to grow a following

nostr current rewards engaging more than posting 
 It does seem that way! 
 I hear yea 
 I can't zap you because you haven't enabled a wallet yet ⚡⚡⚡

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 Now enabled 
 Hm, says 404 no route found, which wallet did you use? 
 The void shouted back 🌍 ... here's what it said

⚡  I SHOULD ENABLE LIGHTNING

One overwhelming response was I need to enable lightning. I did have a self custodial LN setup with zaps once, but my channel partners closed on me and I haven't found new peers. I'm not using a custodial solution so my options are probably to find someone willing to peer and/or use an LSP.

👥 I AM THE ALGORITHM

Many people told me that I am the algorithm and that if I want to been seen I need to be very active interacting with people such that they interact back. My humble opinion is that this is not actually addressing the issue. Primal is great, and like most nostr clients I have used it has a few feed options ("algorithms").

- Latest
- Latest with replies
- Trending 24H
- Most Zapped 
- Nostr Highlights
- Hashtags 

This means that 5 of the 6 options are either content which already has lots of engagement or content which has just been posted. 

I think what's missing is a more sophisticated algorithm which takes into account how many posts someone has made. If you follow bob and alice and bob makes 100 posts a day and alice makes 1, you probably don't want to use any of the existing algorithms, you probably want to see that 1 post by alice, even if it doesn't have any engagement yet, you follow her for a reason (presumably) 

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 Definitely a skill issue (jk😂) 
 Following on the primal.net web app just doesn't work. You click the button and nothing happens. (Brave browser). 
 ditto!!! 
 I heard you :) 
 You'll get much better responses by posting and commenting at Stacker News, which has automatic cross-posting to nostr. It's a win-win.

https://stacker.news/r/Undisciplined