studies have found that the things people are afraid of ( terrorism, sharks etc. ) and things people actually die from ( obesity, car crashes ) are basically the opposite.  people are afraid of things that statistically have almost zero chance of killing them, and not afraid of things that statistically are quite likely to kill them.

and likewise you have an irrational fear of "unsafe" diets when really the only thing unsafe in your case, well, more like suicidal really, is NOT dieting.

but i understand how you got to that world view - it is to large extent the fault of the media who tries to convince people that Anorexia is dangerous but Body Positivity though and Healthy at Any Size ... that is GENOCIDAL PROPAGANDA ( so you know )

reality is very small number of people die from anorexia and very large number of people die from obesity.  it's the same as how children are several orders of magnitude more likely to be injured by Covid Vaccine than by Covid itself yet the media was still pushing Covid vaccine for children ... even as Children kept dying and getting paralyzed and the media knew the vaccine doesn't even work.

but that's how the media rolls.  if you listen to them you will be very sick and probably dead.

simply put unless you are on an idiotic diet like Vegan or Carnivore or you only eat ultra-processed foods it is almost impossible to be malnourished.  your fear of being malnourished is blown way out of proportion while you are nowhere near as afraid of staying morbidly obese as you should be.

all diets aim to accomplish the same thing - reduce calorie intake - but no diet can admit this because then it wouldn't be "magical" anymore and instead just be a retarded way to count calories.  every diet comes up with its own secret formula for reducing calorie intake, so for example you can have: 

- low fat
- low carb
- vegan
- carnivore
- paleo

and on and on but in the end all diets are - is arbitrary restrictions on what you can eat that result in you eating less overall ... that's how diets work PERIOD.  all the rationalizations that go with them are TOTAL BULLSHIT which is why there is an infinite number of diets out there - because it ultimately doesn't matter what the rationalization is - you just need restriction.

well what if you didn't want to be an idiot and wanted to restrict your food intake without lying to yourself about it ?  well you could count calories.  you could fast.  you could have your stomach surgically stapled.  or you can stuff yourself with fiber until you can't eat any more.

counting calories is the best but hardest option, and very few people have it in them to make it work.

eating a bunch of Fiber One cereal with Whey Protein for breakfast is basically ZERO EFFORT and you feel stuffed for several hours without having consumed much in the way of calories, thus losing weight.

i only do this in place of breakfast because if i replaced every meal with this then i would indeed be malnourished.  i use this specifically for breakfast because in the morning my body is low on dietary protein and i want to use the fastest digesting kind ( whey ).

by contrast at night i use the slowest digesting protein ( beef ) to have sustained release as i sleep.

there is no magic in the end.  all the supposed "science" behind diets like Keto is just marketing bullshit.

you ultimately either have to use will power, count calories, fast or find foods that are filling despite being low calorie - and that's exactly what Fiber One Cereal with Whey Protein is.

i have been dieting for 30 years and i don't know anything with a higher ratio of satiety to calories than that.

sugar has the lowest ratio of satiety to calories ( it causes binge eating ).  protein has the highest satiety to calories of macros that have actual calories.  and fiber of course simply has no calories at all so the ratio of satiety to calories is infinite.

i have tried using Metamucil in the past and it's a great way to blow out not just your asshole but the entire intestine and colon and i DO NOT RECOMMEND IT to anybody.

by contrast Fiber One cereal is somehow almost like a luxury experience on the toilet - it's smooth and velvety in texture compared to Metamucil that is too horrific to describe.

for this reason i don't care how much Fiber One costs - it's worth it IMO.

but all this is besides the point.  the main point i want you to take home is to stop worrying about "nourishing" yourself and start worrying about losing weight ASAP.

you think you have other health problems but chances are they are all indirectly caused by your weight.  

you must address the root cause first by losing weight.

nothing else is nearly as important. 

 let me explain to you what is happening to your body right now.

your adipose tissue has reached its limit of capacity to take on fatty acids and they are now overflowing into organs such as liver, pancreas etc. causing those organs to fail.

those organs failing is what is causing you to be sick.

if you don't lose weight you will continue destroying your liver and pancreas causing a cascade of effects such as whack insulin ( pancreas ) and cholesterol ( liver ) levels that will ultimately cause your arteries to get clogged resulting in amputated limbs, stroke, heart attack and death.

morbid obesity is called morbid for a reason - because it leads directly to death.

you're worrying about wrong things.  your goal should be to lose weight at any cost, not worry about "nourishment" or any other hippie bullshit. 

 the media and medical establishment work together to deliberately obscure what is a very simple issue

that 90% of all health problems are caused by one of two things

1 - old age
2 - obesity

they want to make people believe that age is just a number and that you can be healthy at any size - but those are LIES

they want to make you believe that health is a matter of having good insurance that covers all the drugs ... except that Statins for example on average extend the life of a patient by FOUR DAYS whereas obesity on average cuts TWENTY YEARS from one's life 

it is up to you whether you want to continue being a sucker for the industry that kills people for profit  

 I appreciate your sentiments and explanation. I've come to many of the same conclusions over the past few years, although I have found that by not ingesting sugar and staying as low-carb as possible, I don't have the need to ingest a filler such as fiber, and the satiety I get from meat is enough to get me through to the next meal, which is often the next day. 

You seem quick to ridicule carnivore diets, while apparently agreeing with much of the reasoning behind them. I'm not sure where that is coming from, possibly the cultism of its adherents?

I've already lost about half of the weight I was needing to lose to acheive a BMI of 26, where I believe I will start to see the changes I am looking for. I doubt I would see those changes at a higher BMI. My current BMI is 37. My end goal is actually 24.

I would challenge that sugar addiction is the primary cause of premature death and misery in our later years. This includes complications of obesity, as well as heart disease, cancer, and dementia.

Having put my nicotine addiction to rest for now, and hopefully for good, I am now focused on my sugar addiction. Thank you for further validating my conviction. 

 "You seem quick to ridicule carnivore diets, while apparently agreeing with much of the reasoning behind them. I'm not sure where that is coming from, possibly the cultism of its adherents?"

that's like saying " why do you oppose Jews and Muslims fighting each other ? they are both fighting for G-d. are you against G-d ? "

no i am not against G-d i am against idiots and murderers.

the reasoning i am agreeing with is not "behind carnivore" any more than it is behind "paleo" or "keto" or any other fad diet.

all those fad diets are APPROPRIATING this good reasoning into their own brand of BULLSHIT just like every religion claims to be the one true path to G-d.

i don't need any CHARLATANS constructing bullshit mythology around science that i already know without them - because you know what happens ?  eventually there is an edge case ( there always is ) where the science and mythology disagree, and the charlatans and zealots always side with mythology over science.

for example in case of Carnivore the problem occurs because steak+water diet contains ZERO vitamin C which is a nutrient humans MUST consume in the diet - so what do carnivores do ?  they simply WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE claim that when you're on a carnivore diet the Vitamin C requirement is waived !  just like that !  convenient, huh ?

there has never been a single study that shows that carnivores do not need Vitamin C.  all carnivores have is " well i don't take Vitamin C and i am fine " but we don't know if they actually don't take Vitamin C or if they are actually fine.  it's just their word.

at best Carnivores were able to show that they need LESS vitamin C than people on SAD but when i think what would be less than 100 milligrams a day i don't think ZERO milligrams.

but this issue is not unique to Carnivore diets.  ALL fad diets are like this and i oppose ALL of them.

i also oppose government dietary advice and even scientific studies ( which are almost always rigged ).

i stand only with pure reason, because unlike most people i am lucky enough to have it.

@Mike Dilger  

 the other point i been meaning to make is that "nourishment" is indeed a valid concern FOR GROWING ORGANISMS or up to about age 20.

in the beginning of one's life getting enough nutrients should be the primary consideration, otherwise you risk STUNTING.

grain based diets are HORRIBLE for children because they quite directly lead to stunting which is endemic in countries like India that have diets that contain little meat.

sadly we do everything exactly wrong - we feed our children cereal because it's cheap - and then when we grow up and start to make our own money we begin to eat steak, when it is already too late to reap the maximum benefits of it ( you won't grow any taller as an adult ).

there is a saying that youth is wasted on the young ... well steak is wasted on the adults.

yes steak is good but fully grown adults do not need to eat steak on top of steak on top of steak like retarded degenerate carnivores do.  the amount of steak Shawn Baker eats could save probably 20 children from stunting but offers him little benefit.  yes Baker is a good athlete but 99% of top athletes do just fine without carnivore diet.  he posts sickening videos of himself consuming all these steaks and degenerate carnivores applaud them.  fucking scum.