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 I refuse to stoop to calling people ‘incels’ solely because they express invective that I don’t like; it only reduces their value to a binary mechanism of whether or not they’ve had sex (generally irresponsibly) and I hate that about as much as my value is expressed by them as whether or not I have children or “have eggs.” It’s banal immaturity and it’s just not good for establishing a middle ground where we can actually communicate.

Granted, people focusing on staying bitter will generally not make the improvements necessary to carry on their bloodlines. Dialogue simply can’t be had with a lot of people, but not most people. But for now an exchange of ideas can take place. 
 @owl. @☢️ :jhg_s: :jhg_n: :jhg_e: :jhg_e: :jhg_d: :de... @Rick is getting laid (off) 

And you, my friend, are allowed to piss in the wind.

If these guys ever got into a relationship, they would start to figure it out themselves. 

As is, not even the 35 year old fugly single ladies want them, as it should be, until they step up their game. 
 

And you, my friend, are allowed to piss in the wind.

It’s not pissing into the wind. Already I’ve begun to have a constructive dialogue with a reasonable individual who shares similar concerns to my own and understands the problems of the entire scope and doesn’t just try to put things off on one side or the other, acknowledging that there are faults to multiple sides.

Whatever solutions are proposed, however, may be a different story. But the key to reaching a middle ground and understanding is working together instead of playing red versus blue with sexes. 
 @owl. @☢️ :jhg_s: :jhg_n: :jhg_e: :jhg_e: :jhg_d: :de... @Rick is getting laid (off) 

I wish you the best of luck! We need more hope in this world. 

For me, when someone is so ready to impose their will on a others so quickly,, there is more wrong with them than a little bit of talking to can solve. 
 Fat boomers are a dime a dozen

Enjoy your remaining years of diabetes and arthritis