@BunnygirlAbductor Oh definitely. You can have Christmas without presents, and indeed, in the absence of children, I even recommend it; go hang out with your Church, have a barbecue or something, get excited at how awesome Christ's gift is.
But also, give each other gifts. Just in general. It's relationship. 

 She said "the presents isn't the point" and her dad said "well I guess we'll cancel Thanksgiving too!"
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Dude is totally dominated by his mother 

 @BunnygirlAbductor lmao 

 The woman is like 85 and she wants the entire family and extended family at her house for Christmas and she wants everyone to buy a gift for everyone else. 
It ends up being like $30 per person for like 18 people
Tf am I gonna buy for a dude who spends like $1200 a month leasing a Corvette? 

 ITS FROM A BUNCH OF THINGS
AMERICAN CHRISTMAS IS A SMORGASBORD OF EUROPEAN TRADITIONS
THE STOCKING STUFFERS AND THE PRESENTS UNDER THE TREE ARE BOTH REFERENCES TO SAINT NICK 

HE WAS BISHOP OF THE CITY OF MYRA AND ONE OF HIS PARISHIONERS WAS POOR, HAD NO MONEY TO PAY HIS DAYGHTERS DOWRIES AND WAS TOO PROUD TO ACCEPT HELP
SO SAINT NICK WITH THE HELP OF A FEW CO-CONSPIRATORS CLIMBED THE ROOF OF HIS HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND DROPPED A BUNCH OF COINS TIED UP IN A CLOTH DOWN THE CHIMNEY