@BunnygirlAbductor Oh definitely. You can have Christmas without presents, and indeed, in the absence of children, I even recommend it; go hang out with your Church, have a barbecue or something, get excited at how awesome Christ's gift is.
But also, give each other gifts. Just in general. It's relationship. 

 She said "the presents isn't the point" and her dad said "well I guess we'll cancel Thanksgiving too!"
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Dude is totally dominated by his mother 

 @BunnygirlAbductor lmao 

 The woman is like 85 and she wants the entire family and extended family at her house for Christmas and she wants everyone to buy a gift for everyone else. 
It ends up being like $30 per person for like 18 people
Tf am I gonna buy for a dude who spends like $1200 a month leasing a Corvette?