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 People can just not use your relay if they don’t like it

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 Exactly, they can use their own or ones filled with spam 
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 Just tell them to grab their ball and go home. We don't need them.  
 Yeah I’m turning public relays off on all my devices and clients if I notice a whiff of spam. 
 Its pretty bad damus doesn’t have an automatic switch for this, at least for turning off reading from public relays. Right now you have to remove them completely which is dumb 
 I’m sure we will all figure it out. Yes I’m removing them completely. Also, it seems the caching relays are doing some filtering, maybe that’s one solution, though I personally don’t like it that. 

While this spam attack continues, personally I’ll just lay low by going private relays. 
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 That would be an awesome feature. We already have a relay toggle on global. Would be nice to be able to apply it to the main feed and notifications as well. 
 Same UX would be great. 
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 Focus on relays would be a nice touch for Damus. 

I’d like better control over NIP05 followings but more could be achieved faster with relay filtering. 
 @jb55 wen toggle to show only notes where user has a valid nip-05? 
 We have so many weapons in our arsenal. We just weren’t deploying them. 
This issue will be solved relatively quickly. 
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 Which one 
 its easy for spammers to get a nip05 :( they’ve done it in the past 
 You and @Vitor Pamplona have now said this.

So how?

If they’ve got to use their own domains then that’s friction and cost. 

If they want to use a provider then it’s on the provider to filter rather than the client. 
 there are many free providers, and if you ban one you ban everyone else on that domain 
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 At all... 
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 Then the free provider will have to figure out how to prevent spammers from obtaining a nip-05 if they don’t want their legit users to stop using their nip-05. 
 Ok.

Force Users into paid services (from 1 Sat) or allow Users to ban whole service providers is the choice.

I’ll take blocking whole service providers 100/100 times. 1 Sat is friction but when we’re left with at best WoT, then 1 Sat is nothing.

If the service provider can’t filter npubs then what the fuck are they charging Sats for?! Useless providers get 0 Sats rather than 1.

You don’t have to control everything Will. It’s ok to palm off certain functionality.

Right now your disallowing me from banning any NIP05 providers by not giving me this filtering which Id much rather have than not. 
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 Still makes them do more work and if we can add ability to mute nip-05 domains, it would hide all their notes if they use their own domain 
 i worry it would be misused by people not realizing they are banning thousands of people at once 
 This is not for you to worry about.

By all means document your concern. If the change fucks up you are covered.

But I don’t use Damus because of your thought processes on what filters are best. I didn’t even know about some filters until 2 days ago so how are you the best person to control this when you can’t even distribute info to your paid users like me?

If I want to block a NIP05 wholesale then that’s on me.

You disallowing this because you think you know better when you can’t convey functionality to your paid users is pretty stupid mate. 
 The design of apps greatly affects the overall level of censorship in the network. Clients have lots of power here, so design has to be a consideration unless you want everyone banning everyone clientside. 
 I think nip05 banning is pretty dubious and not even reliable, it creates worse effects than it solves 
 At the click of a button damus users could ban all primal users, if you want that then you might as well use mastodon. 
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 This should be obvious but I’m not spending my time on Nostr so you have more ability to censor the network on my behalf.

My ideal is you have zero censorship capability and I have 100% censorship capability *within my own feed*.

So yes; I want everyone banning everyone clientside. I want that clearly and directly, not algorithmically.

I’d rather someone accidentally censor me directly than them leave it up to a client dev to interpret their intention.

Why are you interfering with censorship? I want to control censorship - I never chose to give you that power. I don’t care what your opinions of my own censorship list are, that’s my list and you are irrelevant to it. 
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