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 when you use phoenixd then you need to refer to how phoenixd works: https://phoenix.acinq.co/ 
phoenixd writes some data that contains the seed and channel data. 

Alby Hub is just using the phoneixd API - it can not know anything about the seed or similar. That's the same when you use LND. 
In those cases Alby Hub just does API calls to those services. 

I think Phoenixd is a bit different to the phoneix mobile app but I don't know the details. You best need to talk to ACINQ and their support for more clarity. 

We have some scripts to install phoneixd but for support and details about phoenixd one has to talk to acinq. 
 Thanks I understand better and better. Maybe I didn’t backup the channel state.

Still it’s strange that when I do the I initial « basic » set up of the Phoenixd app, I don’t get exactly the same UI/UX and not the same pubkey, than when I restore from seed.

For example in the initial set up the first sats received were deduced from my balance as an upfront payment, as phoenixd is suppose to work no problem.

Now when I restore with the same seed, the pubkey is different and the Ui also, as I now have to open a channel first manually, before being able to receive the first payment.

Is it also on the ACINQ side this difference in UI/UX depending on if you set up for the 1st tile or restore from seed ?

Thank you very much 
 install.sh saw - great work + thanks 
phoenixd vs andriod phoenix SEED are not interoperable - listen citadel few months ago or verify in doc
do NOT do it.
in worst scenario if their electrum or LN server are unreachable - using SEED (i think BIP39) it should restored on some generic electrum wallet + own electrum server +btcnode ?
does albyhub native node also similar last resort escape plan so can push funds to mainnet using electrum?
fees doesnot matter here.
when u see if throw some light. 
 just finsihed read albydoc - so nice 
Node section, click on "Advanced," select "Redeem Onchain Funds," and enter the Bitcoin address where you want to send your funds. 
So AlbyHUB n Phoenixd BOTH can move FUNDS to maninet
***only risk what if hardcoded ELECTRUM servers or node to broadcast are down/unreachable***
or SEED must able to be restored in compatible generic electrum wallet. i hoping so.
 
 Thanks for the digging but I don't have any funds to redeem on-chain, just 14 SATs remaining in the channel created initially.

It's more about the why to the same seed is providing  2 different node ID/pubkey.