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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 All of those? Yes, if you want to achieve mastery. 

No, if you just want to enjoy them.
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Let me add welding.  Also, yes mastery.
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Well, that's a lot harder and is more difficult now. Not impossible, but you have to be willing to allow yourself to suck while being very repetitive.
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 My father-in-law's father did a lot of very cool metal work art that's around my wife's grandmas house and it does make me think about how fun that would be.  But seriously though, I get it, and frankly I'm not a fan of people who drop $10,000 to pick up a hobby talk about it for 2 weeks and then storage all the shit.  I am going to start studying the ancient greek though, it seems like the more important endeavor at the moment
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Lol! 

The friend who's shop I was in yesterday knows a guy just like that. Bought top-level stuff and has no effing clue what to do with it. He has a very long-suffering wife.... 😅
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 I guess if you have money to burn...but sometimes these folks insufferably make you listen to their new hobby and you just _know_ it'll be over in 2 weeks.
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Yup.

ESPECIALLY after they ask for advice, then ignore it.
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 That's really the thing isn't it.
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Yeah. But hey, that is how we can end up with better equipment for the fiat in the future, or even better stuff with BTC!
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I'm bullish on the future.
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 This depends on the time frame:
The near future is going to suck. 
Long term? Better than anything we can imagine.
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Agreed 100%.
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john | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Seriously tho', I've recently returned to reading the Bible and my good friend is a classics and ancient greek guy (in addition to be an excellent lawyer) and his insights into the word based on returning to the original greek are so fuckin' valuable it's a wonder people can read the Bible in English at all.
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The Beave | 1 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Yup. It sure helps to have context from the original language