Oddbean

No one is talking about how or where humans are conceived. The political matter at hand is population decline, which can be addressed without invading people’s privacy. For example, not letting moms kill their own children or incentivizing more kids with tax breaks like we do already.

An abortion clinic is hardly a private place. “What do you mean I can’t kill this guy officer? I’m doing it in my house, respect my privacy” How are tax breaks for having kids stealing money via taxes and inflation? You’re just throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks.

Are you for real? An hour in a public place that may or may not collect any personal data vs constant invasion of every moment and you are worried about the privacy risk of the clinic? I do not consent for you to use my resources to monitor every woman 24/7 or pay other people to have kids. So using my resources without my consent is theft.

I don’t think you’re grokking the argument that population decline is a political matter and that outlawing murder is something that already exists. It just needs to be applied to humans in the womb in every state. People don’t have the right (or at least shouldn’t) to kill others in private, specially their own children. It’s bizarre you’re more preoccupied about a supposed use of your tax dollars to monitor women 24/7, which no one is suggesting by the way, than the destruction of millions of humans lives. “Yeah I hear you about the millions of babies that were killed in the womb, but the real atrocity is the government using tax dollars trying to stop that from happening” same vibes A tax break is not paying people presumably with tax money to have kids. Again, completely misunderstanding the argument. I imagine you think politics don’t matter anyway, so this conversation is pointless. Good day, sir

I understand that a government taking action requires using force against non consenting non violent people. You are ok with using violence to get your way with non violent people or refuse to understand that is what you are doing. I am not.