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Max Hillebrand | 6 months ago (raw) | export | reply | flag +19 
 @daylightco are you going to use GrapheneOS? I would love hardened hardware that's not from Google... 
https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices
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Brisket | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 @final [GrapheneOS] šŸ“±šŸ‘ļøā€šŸ—Øļø what would be needed to make this a reality?
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Max Hillebrand | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Check the above link, there is a full list of requirements in the FAQ
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Brisket | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Sorry - my bad
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final [GrapheneOS] šŸ“±šŸ‘ļøā€šŸ—Øļø | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Someone could build their own OS which can be based on GrapheneOS. It's permissible as long as people don't present it as the genuine GrapheneOS.

https://grapheneos.org/build

The end result still wouldn't be GrapheneOS though, and the security GrapheneOS has cannot be guaranteed on these builds. Some features are also entirely dependent on the hardware like MTE for newer Pixels or the Tensor Pixels USB-C port controls.
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final [GrapheneOS] šŸ“±šŸ‘ļøā€šŸ—Øļø | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 More information on how it would be phrased can be seen here: https://grapheneos.org/faq#trademark
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Brisket | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Thank you šŸ™
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Layerjack (Onion Knight) | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 They won't. Too much work for them to support verified boot. Hardware cannot be hardened, only software. Google did more for security than you and DC ever did and will ever do.
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daylightco | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +4 
 Hey Max,

Sorry for the late response.  

One possible future is we switch to Graphene.. Worth noting that Graphene is also Android.

we already modify Android and deactivate any explicit reporting to Google, though of course we can't completely guarantee it within google apps the user activates.

The most important is that, long-term, we are writing our own operating system from scratch, without any reference to Android. Graphene is a modified/forked Android (same as ours currently is).
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slipstream | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 What will that mean for application support? To me, a privacy focused Android derivative sounds more appealing than a custom OS
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sourcenode | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 The nice thing about using graphene or another android fork would be the app compatibility and Dev community.

Getting people to program for a new OS sounds like an uphill battle.

Graphene behaves similarly to what you described. The user is in control of their own privacy. The profile feature is very useful in managing apps that require a lot of access.
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elrojo | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 FWIW running on android has its advantages from using the Google play (or other app repository) and optimizing apps. If you introduce another OS will developers need to make a separate app for daylightOS or will the android version of the app work?

Also please make the OS free-and-open-source. This will carry a lot of weight in your target audience. 

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Daniel Wigton | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Still Linux?
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Kanzan | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 of course, GrapheneOS is open source and this sort of thing is verifiable.
where is your source code published?
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Max Hillebrand | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Would be cool to see a new OS, of course it's a huge task, but so is a 60FPS eink...
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SHSS | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag +1 
 Can you download any app to the tablet or are there limitations.
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daylightco | 6 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 You can.  We use a modified android os for now.  Meaning you can download most apps
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Sovtoshi | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 I'm hoping that it would still be binary compatible with APK files either way. I could live with f-droid and likely no google services at this point. It would take a bit of effort but I'm nearly there.
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Chiefmonkey | 5 months ago (raw) | root | parent | reply | flag 
 Iā€™m sold šŸ‘Œ