Oddbean new post about login | logout Depends on which plants you eat! My #soyboyfarts are like sunshine and daisies 🤣 Just wanted to say that spinach and leafy greens like kale that contain high amounts of chlorophyll which neutralizes compounds in the body that cause odor. Other examples are foods high in fiber, citrus, and herbal teas. Conversely, cow's milk contains choline, which can cause body odor. https://voi.id/en/lifestyle/29661
Spinach and kale also contain high amounts of oxalate which lead to kidney stones so I’ll pass on those haha
Kale doesn't.
"Chlorophyll’s detoxifying properties may aid in the elimination of these harmful substances, reducing their impact on brain health and potentially preventing or delaying neurodegenerative conditions. Moreover, chlorophyll-rich foods have been associated with improved cognitive function and brain health." We never discuss the brain with these food topics, only a myopic lens is used. I think growing your own greens is a nice venture, I'm about to start that journey this year.
I think the body (and the brain) has no nutritional requirement whatsoever for chlorophyll. and whatever you are ingesting that chlorophyll would help detoxify, maybe you should start by not eating those either.
*ahem* They MIGHT correlate with calcium stones and salt is the main correlation with calcium stones, not so much spinach and kale. Furthermore, uric acid stones are correlated with the ingestion of red meat and alcohol. Not a doctor, but I’ve had so many stones, nephrologist appointments, urology, and even surgery for this shit😂
Well I’ve never had any stones and since you’ve had a lot, I’m just going to the opposite 😂 🥩
Also. My etiology ended up to be more of a genetic predisposition than diet as over the years, I tinkered with it so much. The first few I got before I went vegan. So it kind of depends and everyone is different. Like consumption is one thing, but not everyone’s organs and enzymes process and absorb said nutrients perfectly
You haven't tinkered with your diet enough until you try not eating any plants or sugars. I applaud you for trying, though. I don't buy the genetic argument just because you hadn't found a way to fix yourself with plants. Your organs definitely won't process and absorb nutrients from plants perfectly, because they were evolved to run on a high meat diet. They will process and absorb nutrients from meat most efficiently. This is why veganism requires supplements to be sustained for any length of time, and even supplements often lack bioavailablity of whatever they were supposed to supplement. Go ahead, run your gasoline car on biodiesel and see how that works out.
"uric acid stones are correlated with the ingestion of red meat and alcohol." Only if you consider "red meat" includes pizza, fast food cheeseburgers, steak dinner with potatoes and broccoli and bread and apple pie desserts. This is meaningless "correlation". Alcohol is poison. The red meat part of that argument has been fully debunked, because the studies were bullshit. Does red meat equal more uric acid? Yes, but it does NOT mean it will form stones, crystallize, cause gout, etc. unless also paired with consumption of plants, which create inflammation and cause systemic failures that result in all the various stones you've dealt with. Treat your kidneys better by removing the inflammation caused by ingesting plant toxins.
Interesting points. I think gut bacteria has a lot to do with it too. If you eat seed oils for most of your life, you’re probably not going to digest certain nutrients very well. Is there a simple way of resetting your gut bacteria or do you just have to be patient?
There is no marker of gut bacteria health. We know next to nothing about the gut microbiome. For example, the fact that they influence the brain is a relatively recent discovery and hasn't even fully penetrated the establishment. That being said, my guess is that the gut reacts the best to fatty meat. The bacteria break down almost all the nutrients they require to short chain fatty acids anyway. Also, regarding the uric acid (urate actually) and kidney stones. 75% of kidney stones are calcium oxalate, so urate stones are a minority of stones. It has been common knowledge in medicine for decades now that blood urate levels correlate to urate stone and gout incidence, but no causal link has been established (i.e. a person with very high urate levels might never form urate stones or develop gout). It is why alopurinol, a drug that lowers urate levels, should never be prescribed for lowering urate levels in people who never had gout or urate stones. What is necessary for urate crystals to form in the body is inflammation. So, even though red meat increases urate levels a bit, it is not itself inflammatory. This is why carnivores usually report a drastic improvement of gout symptoms when adhering to a strict red meat diet. What else increases urate levels? Fructose is exclusively metabolized in the liver, which produces urate. Since sugary processed foods, which are also rich in seed oils, are also highly inflammatory, you get the golden recipe for gout and urate kidney stones. The metabolization of alcohol also produces urate and inflammation, so people who have gout issues should cease all alcohol and junk food consumption. Instead of saying that, however, most of my ignorant colleagues recommend reducing red meat consumption, which is contraindicated for humans.