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 "building an ethnic enclave" would mean gathering free range/bitcoiner/homesteader types and everyone deciding to converge on an area

not hard to see how the rural setting will tend to be the main option chosen 
 Rural people live in isolation and away from infrastructure and amenities. Mostly (fat) people hiding in their homes or yards, and drinking or eating themselves to death. City people try to live out here, but the social isolation and low median intelligence drives them batty. Without the Internet, I'd go mad.

We've had the best life in large towns or smaller, quieter cities. County seats. 
 yeah, making prescriptions for other people is a waste of time

most people are in a trance 24/7 
 Most people in our village never leave the house, other than to go to work or the city stores (and now they even get groceries delivered). There are about 200 of us, that you see everywhere and that run everything, and we all know each other. 
 i'm sure that some psychotic bureaucrat will become aware of the peace of your location and send the migrants to you 
 Impossible to hide from migrants, forever. They migrate. 🤷‍♀️ 
 they are being lured around, and used as human shields and culture bombs 
 They're also hiding from deportation, now. 
 only criminals would be hiding 
 everyone knows deportation is just gonna mean being sent to one of the less popular places, so, germany/france/netherlands forwards em to italy, spain, greece, bulgaria, hungary, poland, slovakia

so, i still say only criminals will hide

or stupid people, which you also don't want in your village 
 No, deportation is a Ländersache here and Bavaria deports to home countries.

Someone was so desperate to escape the police, last week, that he threw himself into oncoming traffic. Five cops grabbed him, tied him up, and carried him to the car. Right in front of us, out shopping. They had no fucks to give.

And neither did we. 
 well, that's nice, but there's dozens more where he came from and the ones throwing out the bait are playing a long game 
 Tables have turned. 
 maybe but how long until they find a new vector, the long game has to be about purging this kind of megalomaniac troublemaker from the species 
 All illegal immigrants are criminals. 🤷‍♀️ 
 criminals by which standard of law? 
 Immigration law. 
 what about international law of displaced persons by actual war, famine or disaster? i think that ultimately trumps any stupid government statutes

good people won't leave their home for nothing, you have just been elaborating upon that subject today quite extensively, even citing the behaviour of two ethnic groups and their enclave formation practices 
 I am not an open borders proponent, by any stretch of the imagination. 
 i'm so flighty that i'll flee at the first whisper of credible martial law or impending arrival of an invading force

i'm used to running, because i've had to several times in my life 
 Try running with a bunch of children and disabled people and elderly. 
 that's the thing you see

the weak need to follow the strong, or society ends up in a place where only the strong can escape from the meatgrinder

strong people don't bow down to kings 
 also, if you were lucky enough to have someone show up and give you a credible warning that the village you lived in was going to fall into the ground because of a giant cavity and impending seismic effect, are you leaving?

if your whole household was provided this information, and nobody had any reason to doubt it, will you stay for the sake of your neighbours comfort and inevitably die or are you gonna go and not turn back like Lot? 
 the enemy (yes, THAT enemy) has ground everyone down so hard now that they are resigned to his victory over them

the enemy cannot spread his violence everywhere, it is exemplary, so, yes, in most cases you are gonna be fine but the longer he has the more examples that will be made and the lower your chances of avoiding it

many people could see what was coming from Hitler, but they decided against the clear danger to stay, and next thing you know they are being herded into trains 
 Happens daily where I live 💜🫂 
 there are some pretty wiley elderly people out there  i'm not sure if they aren't made of rubber. 
 this will be me in 50 years time

and i'll be damned if i'm gonna die younger than my great opa (98) 
 yes, they have eyes in the back of their head, wit, mind reading capabilities, and skin like leather, no glasses. it's possible. my great Aunt only stopped playing tennis at 95 because they make them sign up online. not that she can't use the computer, she totally emails and such, but more because it feels silly tapping a check box on the schedule when you're used to just showing up on the court. 
 yeah, granny is right, fuck their stupid commie bureacracy 
 Run to a place with no hand outs. No freeloaders will migrate there.  
 Those are the places they came from. 😂 
 very often, yes, but not always

pretty much everything east of the old iron curtain has no handouts for immigrants either, at least not much anyway

when i was in prison in 2014 they segregated foreigners and most of my fellow prisoners were from middle east and north africa and they all wanted to go to germany as soon as they got their BG papers

there was some actual migrants, quite a few nice looking african people that i saw around in the years following in Sofia but pretty much all the low lifes and syrians and iraqis and morooccans and algerians passed straight through

a few got shot trying to skip into bulgaria via Turkey back then too, suffice it to say that bulgaria was not friendly to these freebie hunters 
 yes, in bulgaria law at least back then, they had to spend like 6 months in jail waiting for court to decide if they were gonna be sent back

suffice it to say it was effective, there was only about maybe 60 such people locked up with me in the city of Sofia

there was a few syrians in the low sec prison i got transferred to but they were in for criminal penalties, one interesting one was a syrian doctor who was accumulating heroin to convert to methadone to take back to damascus 
 Rural Europe is also becoming dotted with refugee centers and prisons. There are villages with more refugees than villagers, now. 
 that's why a lot of people are leaving europe for south america, eastern europe, and asia 
 Basically nomads. Not an option for people who have extended families, unless you can get the entire family to join you.

We have half the family on each side of the ocean and it keeps us broke, flying back and forth every year or two. 
 history has cycles, we are in another war phase and nomads have the best chances of survival, because the inertia of social obligations is how they slaughter so many people in wars

the future belongs to those who don't go down with the ship

my obligation only is to obey God and to follow Jesus, everything else is man-made 
 The future belongs to those with offspring. 
 that only requires two people... viz Noah 
 Noah didn't raise his children alone with his wife. They were all married adults, when they entered the ark. 
 Noah's offspring must have been very un-stubborn or just into their late 30s to get back on board with the crazy Dad. 
 They were probably just humoring him and were surprised by the rain. 
 there is also the possibility that there was literal angels, giant hybrid man/angel types of 20' stature, and that Noah really was like - what does it say, 400 or something?

i haven't got a satisfactory theory yet for the strange longevity numbers in these old texts, the conventional ratio theories just don't quite work for me, and when you understand what a pole shift does to the landscape the "no stone left upon another" imagery suddenly comes into focus

is it possible that humans did literally live into their multi-hundreds at one time, and due to the degradation of DNA and adoption of sugar based diets the lifespan decreased to what was warned about after the expulsion from the Garden? 

it would be very difficult to guess at all, as it is genetic science is still pretty nascent and longevity is not well understood, we at best have an estimate that 150 years is possible with current knowledge with optimal treatment

and if all the fossils they know about were literally buried as little as 6000 or maybe 12000 years ago, and everything else before that is entirely lost, and these examples are extremely rare cases, then all bets are off, if you ask me

can't say yes or no, only that there is stories, and that hypothetically it is possible, given the right genes that we are not aware of 
 Hi Stella, hast Du irgendwo Bibelzusammenfassungen gepostet?Ich fand das interessant, aber finds es auf Nostr nicht mehr... 
 Was für Zusammenfassungen? Ein Aufsatz oder...? 
 Wie eine zusammenfassung einzelner kapitel auf Englisch. Bin dann aber eingeschlafen und finds es nicht mehr... 
 We actually know a lot of people (including ourselves) who ended up moving back home from overseas. And many people who are listed as "Germans leaving Germany" are not ethnic Germans. Their home countries, like Poland or wherever, have improved and they go back. 
 i'm from australia, only my third-degree separated ancestors are from other places, namely indonesia, netherlands, germany

i was told by a dude in prison that there is people with my family name in the city of Bonn,  so i guess probably also some in Dortmund and Essen and Koln... my opa grew up in Apeldoorn, which is nearby

my dutch relatives are all crazy and my mother's side of the family traces back to convicts and i hate the british isles, and ireland, with a passion, have spent 2 years too many there

i'm one of those people whose roots have been torn several times over and that is probably typical for this "nomad" type you talk about

evil has stolen from us a sense of roots and a place 
 I don't only want to live around free-range/bitcoiner/homesteader types. I like a mix of people. Otherwise, every conversation just has one viewpoint, again, which is incredibly dull and will rot the brain.

That's why I prefer Nostr meetups to Bitcoin ones. More diverse population. More interesting conversation.