My dream wallet: - Lightning - On-Chain - eCash - Nostr integration - NWC - Custom LN address - Self-custodial - On-the-fly, background channel management - Customizable lightning fees - Tor connection option - Exportable transaction log (csv, JSON) - Integrated buy/sell Right now, I think Breez comes closest, tho it's still missing some key features. Thoughts? #blog #bitcoin
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Great additions. I was thinking about each of those when I was pondering the different wallets earlier today, and they just didn't pop into my head when I was writing the list. Thanks for adding these!
https://stacker.news/items/696154/r/OT I wrote about something similar a while back. I'd like to see a lot of the functionality happening in the background or on a home server.
Sub accounts to keep track of small sat streams and auto withdraw to cold storage once a certain threshold is met. But yep that's pretty much it.
I was recommended Breez by a couple people. Does it work with desktop clients?
Unfortunately, Breez is only available for mobile. Additionally, it doesn't have any nostr integrations. You can use it to zap, but you can't use it to receive zaps because there's no LN address. There's also no NWC. I still think it's one of the best wallets available due to its dynamic on-chain send/receive, and on-the-fly lightning channel management that doesn't require any user intervention.
Guhhh I'm so absolutely tired of doing the double work on desktop finding things and then having to go into primal mobile to zap them
You should look into Cashu Wallet, and Coinos. Cashu Wallet is the basis for Primal's wallet. If you're familiar with Primal's wallet, then you already know how to use Cashu. It's an ecash wallet that also supports Lightning, and it has NWC for full integration with Nostr. Coinos provides similar functionality; Lightning, Liquid, eCash. NWC and a customized LN address for full integration with Nostr. Both wallets are web-based, so they can be accessed from the desktop, anywhere you go. Between the two, Coinos is a bit more user friendly, but it's custodial, meaning Coinos actually holds your coins. Cashu, on the other hand, is a non-custodial wallet, meaning you hold the keys, and possession of your coins. Both are stable and reliable, and if you're looking for something to primarily interact with Nostr (zaps), both are fully suited to the task. I wouldn't use either of them for storing large quantities of bitcoin. For that, I think you want something that's based on on-chain bitcoin. Something like Electrum, or Mycelium. Cashu Wallet — cashu.me Coinos Wallet — coinos.io
You’re the man with the educated. You do such a great job at elaborating different subjects
I might like to use it as a mediary / secondary wallet (OK, my third, lol) to empty my Primal into and use it for non-nostr stuff and expenses for my business (which I accept BTC sats for). I get paid and spend btc now as much as possible.
Oh! Well, Breez has an integrated POS with customizable inventory, and service list so merchants can easily accept bitcoin for their products and services. That might be very useful for you.
Yeah I saw BTCPay does the same. I'm so over trying to get NWC. I really wanted to integrate with my WooCommerce site that I built years ago, really hate having to reinvent the wheel, so I'm just on Shopstr now with my jerky.
BTC pay integrates with Breez Wallet. I was just reading a support doc about that. NWC is a nice convenience, but it's not really a primary requirement. There are other features that are more important. I hope you find something that meets your core requirements, and meets your needs!
That's what I thought too. Thanks.
This sounds like a paid service at this point lol
Most wallets are already a paid service. They receive their money by way of transaction fees that are inciuded in addition to standard network fees. Most are in 0.5-2% range, so it's pretty reasonable.
Yea definitely especially some of these lightning wallets
For the most part, their fees are very reasonable and you don't even notice them. And for the features they provide, I'm happy to give them a small bite at the apple on all my receives. When it comes to money handling, I think it's better to contribute to a reasonable salary for the devs than to rely on the goodwill and sustained interest of someone who's doing it as a hobby.
Fully noded is quite expansive