We've been thinking a lot about subscriptions at Mutiny and how others can take advantage of it.
Today, ZapplePay just shipped AutoZaps. It's like a decentralized Patreon: every npub gets their own page where people can set up recurring payments to them. https://www.zapplepay.com/autozap/
AutoZaps and ZapplePay use NWC (Nostr Wallet Connect) to communicate with supporting wallets such as Mutiny and Alby. Both wallets have budgeting features so you can auto-approve payment requests associated with a specific NWC string.
We built Mutiny+ using this same NWC tech. Bitcoin is a "push" system, so replicating fiat's "pull" payments in a self-sovereign way involves new ideas and standards. NWC keeps the user in control, and offers the convenience of autopay when you want it. https://blog.mutinywallet.com/solving-subscriptions-on-bitcoin-one-zap-at-a-time/
Check out AutoZaps and see what you think! We're looking to work with other services / products that want to offer NWC-based checkouts and subscriptions so hit us up if you'd like to chat.
At a glance , I thought that you were proposing a subscription to use mutiny.
Wow , this is a really exciting prospect! Will it be accesible to the average joe ?
We want to integrate it into mutiny more in the future but we wanted to demonstrate how anyone can use the NWC tech for different use cases. Check out the zapple pay autozaps page to see it in action. We think it is pretty accessible but let us know if not.
Thanks for that! I don't have an apple device, but I do use Alby , and I believe they use NWC too right?
Yes, this works for any device and wallet that has NWC including Alby.
Do I need to subscribe to Mutiny+ to give the auto-approve a go?
Not at all. Auto approval has a check box in the wallet connections area.
Im not sure what to put in the add connection field, where the example text says "My favorite nostr client".
Do I paste a url of a client or something?
Sorry , I'm a nitwit, it's a wonder I've made it this far.
You can put whatever you want, that's just a name for your reference.
For goodness sake , what a dope I am.
Ohh wow , this has come along since last I checked ! Thanks !
That's Alby on the shelf , zap wise. The auto-approve function was my only hold-out. Excellent job !
One last thing, after the wallet connection config with amethyst, outgoing zaps look great , but incoming zaps still go to alby ?
What should I do so that zaps go to my mutiny wallet?
Not possible yet unfortunately. There's a few challenges around it.
You'll cross that bridge in due course , I don't doubt it
When are we replacing LNURL to negotiate over nostr?
Please. We've talked to a few that want to do this. I think with NWC extensions, we can do this.
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We just need to spec it, but should be pretty straightforward!
AutoZap subscriptions 👀 This could be a nice solution for creators.
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Mutiny might already be the best lightning wallet available and it just keeps getting better
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@OpenSecret what haven’t you guys thought about? Y’all are crushing it and just when I think you can’t get any better, you totally over do it!! Lol
Very cool. Congrats on the launch 🚀
It's really unbelievable how simple it is to use Mutiny Wallet 🤙!
And now that feature ... amazing 🤘!
It seems there are no excuses for using custodial wallets anymore!
Putting trigger emoticons as zap is a game change idea!
So when you really like contens of other people, you can support it with a prefix amount of satoshis!
This incentivate exchange flow, bringing value straight to the creators! 🎩🧡⚡💜
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Gracias @OpenSecret por esta información ahí estoy leyendo todo
Congratulations @OpenSecret
This will be huge 💗💗💗
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I just wish my NWC CLN plugin didn't crash so often ^^;
But that aside, this is a really neat concept, looking forward to see the implementation!
Patreon is here. Let's go! 🚀
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Now @OpenSecret patreon and Autozaps are in everyones mind
Lets go 🫂
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That nwc subscription model sounds great cause true you can set it to a certain max per month.
サブスク機能
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This is epic. Bitcoin subscriptions are real now.
I think this is going to be a huge unlock for subscription services
That's very well done Nostriches 🤙🏻
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Does it use Zapple Pay’s nostr key to do the zaps? It’d be cool to see how much each user has received, with zap goals ⚡️
Yes, just the zapplepay nostr key for now. Wonder if there's at all a good delegated way to signal it's on behalf of someone else. Pablo might have something out soon related to this from the sounds of it.
Where is our thinking license?
We don’t wanna get sick from cheap drugs like fentanyl and other dirty substances?!
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サブスク？
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It might be a good idea to make a lot of technical marketing material and DIY videos to help new people understand what you guys are doing.
One of the key use cases of Bitcoin lightning is low cost transactions. This enables merchants of digital content to take small payments for one off purchases where previously that would have been cost prohibitive.
Bitcoin gives us an alternative to to the subscription model. We all know the scenario of signing up for the free trial because we want to see that one thing. Then we forget to cancel the service that we are not using and get stuck in a passive form of abuse for months until we notice the payments going out. We can do better than this!
This is great, thanks
Do you have any setup instructions? When I introduce my npub at autozap it says user not found, where is looking for? What may I be missing?
I see no "big yellow button below" to 'make my own' page? Am I missing something or is it limited at this point?
It's now the big yellow button at the top called "find an autozap page"
Ben here, thanks for the huge Zap!
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