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 agree, thats why we need nostr based solution. People ephasizing how "secure" is ios or signal app forgot that security without freedom is temporary and accidental. 
 Properly implemented like keychat would be good. But it can be done without nostr too as Simplex is already becoming mature 
 yeah, but no. Nostr is horizontal and decentralized from day zero, simplex is a platform well documented unless people start doing third party implementations of clients and server.
I think projects that start like simplex dont end decentralized and open. Would be happy to be wrong! 
 Yep. Even keychat on Nostr is likely to get centralized over time. 

You either incentivize multiple clients, multiple servers, which goes against the duty to maximize revenue of a company, or you end up centralizing everything. 
 There are a lot of servers outside the pool the run. I run two of my own 
 a some instamce of the same code, nit different implementations 
 That is true... Fixable though, but it will cost a lot of development time 
 fixable by real adoption, we will se if it will ever happen. 
 Probably not. Even Signal is a tiny percentage of WhatsApp. But let's say Simplex does eat a significant percentage of the market and remains open. What is the incentive for a group to invest millions into building alternative but feature wise identical implementation?

More likely there will eventually be forks to implement things core won't