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 🤣 how embarrassing for the best funded app on nostr. 
 Literally marketed as "Le App Bitcoin", and then they use legit shitcoin libraries. 😅 

All of the #Monero guys, who have had to put up with so much crap on here, including from #Primal fanboys, must be looking at this like
https://media.tenor.com/12vmKWVVJrwAAAAC/death-stare-black-snake-moan.gif 
 I am legit LOLing. 
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 @Ava did you see this go down? 
 I uninstalled Primal over a month ago. It's been lame for too long. After keeping it installed and trying to like it as a backup client for ten months, it was time to say goodbye. What went down? The inclusion of crypto wallets? 
 They've been using crypto libraries, while marketing themselves as a Bitcoin app, yes, and it sort of bubbled up, due to an attack on the library.
Primal web repo hasn't moved in 6 months, not even a bug-fix, but they rolled back this particular commit, last night. 😅 

Their whole "Bitcoin Nostr" schtick always rubbed me the wrong way, anyway, as Nostr isn't supposed to just be for Bitcoiners, and they turned Nostr into a feeder for Strike KYC, but whatever.

https://media.tenor.com/i2V9q28KQ0QAAAAC/dottie-underwood-agent-carter.gif 
 Oh wow! I missed that. That sounds very hypocritical. And I agree—I've said it time and time again—if Nostr is only for Bitcoiners, it's dead in the water. But deceptive marketing is not the way. Thanks for the heads up! 
 
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 I say let the poor marketing continue. Could be a great way to help them dig their own grave🤷‍♂️. 
 More people need to know. 
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 I'm a Monero guy right after Bitcoin Guy 
 meh
Primal is obviously the Apple of nostr.

centralized 3rd parties are security holes blah blah 
 You mean "most fleeced?" 
 https://image.nostr.build/7e0b02e97c0c26a6475eced36b7e964ebe590812398d82bc7b9181d3cc64d1b8.jpg 
 Other than keeping Primal users from experiencing ALL of nostr inc the "other stuff"?
https://media2.giphy.com/media/IkBMOwZ44Ug7GxNuQx/200.gif 
 I feel about Primal, the same way I felt about Mutinity Wallet.

Countdown läuft... 
 How did you feel about Mutiny Wallet? 
 CEO had a terrible attitude and I told him that he wasn't going to last long and he didn't. 
 I see. Looks like it's not around anymore too. 
 It does seem that way. If you had to make an educated guess, what percentage of total nostr users do you believe use primal as their primary client?  
 I suspect that it's a majority of those onboarding, lately, unfortunately, but we manage to salvage some of them and get them to other clients.

This is one of their VC boards, FYI.
https://ten31.vc/team 
 I suspect a lot of the problems Nostr has been having are a direct result of people onboarding through Primal, but it won't let up until Primal finally goes away or completely reforms. 
 Kind of ironic, isn't it? Bitcoin and freedom advocates scaring away bitcoiners from freedom tech😅. 
 https://image.nostr.build/3d12aa572321505e4a78099dc1bc0b3935f6fbd231bd73e0b3069767257bb35f.jpg 
 Primal: the best funded shitcoin on nostr.  
 
nostr:nevent1qqspx2kn0zvk6ccfpfvkp4w4cptcgdxsg9eahvc7ltz6zzh44r5dwkcprdmhxue69uhhg6r9vehhyetnwshxummnw3erztnrdakj7q3qgnwpctdec0aa00hfy4lvadftu08ccs9677mr73h9ddv2zvw8fu9sxpqqqqqqzk2vefy 
 
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 I won't say anything because I'm sat next to a window 😁 
 Making Nostr all about Bitcoin seems to have sucked in a bunch of grifters and finance-suits-in-hoodies, and it's turned newcomer's microblogging feeds into a cheesy, discount-version of Bitcoin Twitter.

Nostr has zaps, but zaps aren't the reason Nostr exists. Nostr predates the zap. Nostr has its own agenda. The real Nostr devs care about Nostr, for its own sake, and not just as a place to spend Bitcoin.

This note is signed with my private key and published to the relay on my laptop. GFY.

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 100% and GFY

Cool, yeah bitcoin, got it. But like lets to other normal social and business things here too, it's why were here. I don't want any other platform. 

I also have no idea what Bitcoin Twitter was, but the reason it's call Bitcoin-Twitter is kind of gross imo.  
 to be fair, nostr uses taproot cryptography, and bech32 encoding

not sure why it didn't use JSONRPC2 like Bitcoin P2P network tho

i think fiatjaf thought it would be clever to do something super minimalistic and full of implicit semantics 
 Bitcoin is life 
 The GFY was a nice touch. 
 Umm.... okay here i have to disagree with you. I would not spend half as much time on nostr if it weren't for the doors that open and limitless possibilities with lightning 
 GM GFY 
 I've thought this for a while. It's especially true since many people don't understand that they aren't locked into "an app."  
 Yes. 
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 What do you recommend for MacOS? 
 do you use web clients?
i like to use:
https://nostter.app
https://nostrudel.ninja
https://habla.news
https://www.yakihonne.com 
 Thank you I’ll take a look 
 Stop being an idiot and run Linux.  
 😅 

Just had my new employer ask me if I wanted a Windows or a Linux laptop, and it was like,

Wait... is this a trick question? 
 So long as you get to choose your own install.. Right? 
 No, only Ubuntu. 😭 

I don't want to talk about. I'm grieving. 
 It will be fine. 🫂 
 It's great that they offer Linux!  
 I've been using Linux, at home, since like 2005, and tested on a Linux/Windows dual-boot since the 1998 or something, but this will be my first Official Work LinuxOnly Laptop.

I'm happy about that. 
 What a great day! 😁  
 Nostur  
 Why? 
 The increasing follow-concentration is a direct result of their trending list and their preset follow-list for newbies. This was immediately obvious, from the get-go, but they have just left it like that.

Also, whilst the majority of the other devs and relay-managers immediately jumped on the ReplyGuy issue, Primal was lackadaisical. They are often AWOL, and they don't seem to use the relay, web client, or image server, themselves, on a daily basis, so they let the systems atrophy, and fill up with literal garbage, while performance crawls to a halt.

The other devs are eventually annoyed by their own stuff being broken, since they use it regularly themselves, but Primal devs are like vegan butchers. They can legit watch their repos rot for half a year and not give a damn. I've seen a lot, but that takes the cake.

Primal got way too much funding and way too much adoring press, from the get-go. They're front-and-center at the conferences, of course, talking a big game. They be like
https://media.tenor.com/GAPSxsTdaiwAAAAC/valentino-rossi-rossi.gif 
 Seriously? What problems is primal causing?  
 I guess that makes me one of the salvaged users since I only used primal for a few days before I turned to amethyst.

Thank you! I just took a look at this. Wow! Primal is well-funded. I can't deny that. But... it's becoming exactly what it promised not to. I actually just un-installed it.

Lol we don't really need a Bitcoin advertisement platform. Companies like Blackrock and Fidelity are doing all that for us.