Oddbean

AGREE SOCIAL IS BAD FOR CHILDREN. SCREENS IN GENERAL ARE BAD FOR CHILDREN. AND ADULTS FOR THAT MATTER. SHOULD BE THE PARENTS RESPONSIBILITY, NOT THE STATE. THIS WILL BE USED AS AN EXCUSE TO KYC EVERYONE TO “PROTECT THE CHILDREN.”

There are so many cute things I see on here. Daily cat photos, mom and kid pranks, cooking with kids, how to woodwork, bugs bugs bugs, nature walks. I could compile a weeks worth of content to get the ball rolling. Then parents could add their own content. It won't be easy but it is doable.

You make a good point. Curious how to curate that though because while many users do post those things, the also post other stuff too. I wonder if there's a way to utilize these ai bots to sort and tag kid friendly content so the client can pick up those tags and selectively display content not just by follow but by tag as well

I think it would have to be a read only relay first, I'm assuming so it can be curated correctly, then working with content creators who would maybe hashtag items, then it would have to be approved by the relay operator. Or group client but invitation only 🤷 there are many possibilities. The AI bots are great idea, but I think someone needs to approve it to their topic related relay. I don't know, I'm not techy. 😂

The reality is they do already and it's not changing. Every thing is turning to computers. Hell we are starting to need a cellphone to open front doors. It's inevitable, but Nostr could create an environment that makes kids touch grass instead of forcing them to watch ads that are irrelevant or adult themed. These are the closed groups/relays that would be perfect for parents to participate. Help curb this growing epidemic by not banning the use of computers but nurturing healthier ecosystems. We can avoid it, and say no no no. We could have something like homeschool clients. Where the kids can chat and be monitored but also have calendars for playtime meetups.

Look into the work of Jonathan Haidt and you'll start to understand how bad it is. Screens are terrible, notifications are addicting, social media is psychotic and it all plays into the overall social underdevelopment of kids. I'm not going to say nostr couldn't play a role later in their adolescence as an alternative to legacy social media because it certainly can but that's not necessary until at minimum 16. But parents who love their kids don't give them phones. Period. If a parent hands their kid a phone or tablet below 16, they simply don't love them enough. I have no problem saying that because I know what it has done to an entire generation or two of kids at this point. Homeschooled kids have no reason to need a smartphone. Flip phones don't have the same effect and so would probably be okay if absolutely necessary for contacting parents/friends. We don't need phones for anything if we choose to limit their use in our lives. We made the choice to join Nostr to escape these addictive platforms, we can make the choice to introduce our kids to technologies as appropriate. I don't plan on letting my daughter drink alcohol at seven and I won't let her have a smartphone until she's at least 16, probably 18. It's as easy as you let it be.

I've also been pondering this. I'm generally opposed to handing kids smartphones, at least until they're teens. But at that point you could use parental controls to whitelist clients that have built in features that prevent certain content (i.e. "teen friendly", whatever that is..). Challenge with nostr is its benefit; openness. There are so many ways to access the protocol and find nsfw content.. Thinking out loud: What about a solution where you are the father-npub, and for the son/daughter-npub to see any content it needs to be approved by you (e.g. followed by you or those you follow). Of course, they could spin up their own npubs and work their way around that pretty quickly when they understand how nostr works.

No. Parents need to be educated to not turn loose their children on the internet. Doing so is the same as turning your children loose on the streets of NYC or LA. The same is true for TV as well.

I'm pragmatic on this topic.. and when it comes to kids and smartphones I think growing up without one fits most, if not all. https://primal.net/e/note13ea78cpfd6z8qkzjfm0prrh6znn95q50lj06f9u358zducv7zklqgn0jxa

Would anyone be interested in reading Rewired by Carl Marci together? It goes into how screens change our perspective. We can put that on the "to be read list" 😊 nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqpxfzhdwlm3cx9l6wdzyft8w8y9gy607tqgtyfq7tekaxs7lhmxfqqs8aalv807v50raqsmyu6dkulyav232g3xvlgam3p92c7fygx79w9gvmcpcu

fixed it for you. "agree social is bad for children. screens in general are bad for children. and adults for that matter. should be the parents responsibility, not the state. this will be used as an excuse to kyc everyone to “protect the children.”"

THIS IS #NOSTR. WE DO WHATEVER WE WANT HERE AND CURATE OUR OWN FEED BASED ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. DON'T LIKE WHAT SOMEONE HAS TO SAY, OR HOW THEY SAY IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE TJEM IN YOUR FEED. UNFOLLOW AND/OR MUTE AND MOVE ON.

It's the tragedy of the commons. Parents don't take responsibility because they don't see (or don't want to see) that this is a collective problem with long term consequences not only for their own kids. But to avoid their kids "being left out" they're handing them the internet in their pocket, powered by an addiction engine. So as a parent trying to fight this trend tooth and nail, I'll take any help I can get. In Norway the trust in the state is higher than most places, so a state ban (or even recommendation) will trickle into the school system and be an ally.

I think there's two separate conversations to be had. One concerns state overreach and the other the damage caused by social media, but they should be separated. There's zero doubt that social media and wider content can be poisonous and addictive. Children should be sheltered from it and most rational parents would come to the same conclusion. It's not the state's role to parent my child, it's mine. The issue with legislation like this is that it's inevitably an easy win Trojan horse to further control and coercion of internet use for the rest of society.